WWE RAW 13th February 2012 - LIVE Discussion

[Chadillac]

Attendance for raw tonight was sub par, maybe 6500. Preformer of the night goes to Randy Orton. Dolph gets a very close second. HHH and HBK was the best raw segment iv'e seen in a very long time and punk slowed down his spot fest, cram everything in, style. Great mic work for punk tonight as usual. he's becoming my favorite on the mic when HHH isn't around. No one can compare with HHH in any catagory as far as i am concernd. And i think it became clear tonight, that if the WWE wants an extra 200,000 buys, and a match of the decade canadate on the card, they should go with HHH vs HBK. Give Cody the Undertaker. He's going 20 and 0 anyway. I give raw 3 out of five stars tonight. I took a half star out because i wanted a Cody/Ziggler tag team match.

 

[Andrew]

I see differently, I somewhat see Ryder coming back to being actually pushed.

While he's been attacked and such, he could be facing guys like Kane and Cena in the near future. I believe all in due time he'll become relevant instead of being an Internet Sensation.

 

[PHX]

He's being pushed alright we just saw how literally.

 

[The Wrestling Addict]

I honestly hope you're right in this case, Andrew.

 

[Heisenberg]

Attendance for raw tonight was sub par, maybe 6500. Preformer of the night goes to Randy Orton. Dolph gets a very close second. HHH and HBK was the best raw segment iv'e seen in a very long time and punk slowed down his spot fest, cram everything in, style. Great mic work for punk tonight as usual. he's becoming my favorite on the mic when HHH isn't around. No one can compare with HHH in any catagory as far as i am concernd. And i think it became clear tonight, that if the WWE wants an extra 200,000 buys, and a match of the decade canadate on the card, they should go with HHH vs HBK. Give Cody the Undertaker. He's going 20 and 0 anyway. I give raw 3 out of five stars tonight. I took a half star out because i wanted a Cody/Ziggler tag team match.

What's with you and numbers?

I doubt it Chad, WWE RAW is nearly always sold out and the crowd was good and looked quite full when they showed it from distances. Pretty loud too and loved the chants, they were definitely into it. The arena they are at holds: Mixed Martial Arts / Wrestling: 16,100 - Arena Football: 12,000 - Ice hockey: 12,920 - Basketball: 14,500 - Concerts: 14,800 - Circus: 13,000

 

[Troy]

Ryder went from the biggest push of his life to now being a crash test dummy every other week. Poor Ryder.

He is still on RAW every single week so I count that as a push. He and Santino were the only midcarders shown on RAW tonight, the rest were the six in the EC match and then HHH/HBK/Taker so he is in pretty good company.

I was expecting something to break Ryder's fall or the wheel chair not falling and him jump out of it but he took the spot and it looked fuckin painful. Sucks that Ryder is now getting the shit beat of him every week.

I thought the same. I expected him to hit something and it looked quite bad.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Jax and I just recorded a new show.

 

[Darth Shizzel]

Chad no just no I am literally pulling my hair out in frustration with your post stop licking Cody's balls for one second and listen carefully.

CODY IS NOT WORTHY OF FACING THE FUCKING UNDERTAKER AT WRESTLEMANIA THERE ARE ONLY 4 GUYS RIGHT NOW WORTHY OF FACING TAKER HHH, CENA, JERICHO AND RANDY ORTON NOW WILL YOU STOP SUCKING CODYS COCK AND STOP WITH THE BIEST BULLSHIT YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!

 

[Chadillac]

I see differently, I somewhat see Ryder coming back to being actually pushed.

While he's been attacked and such, he could be facing guys like Kane and Cena in the near future. I believe all in due time he'll become relevant instead of being an Internet Sensation.

Why don't people just understand. Ryder was a 2 month merchandising gig. THAT is it. They have him doing this B/C they know he only has 15 minutes of fame and he's used up 12. The best thing they can do for ryder is turn him heel before the fans stop caring.

 

[Troy]

Attendance for raw tonight was sub par, maybe 6500. Preformer of the night goes to Randy Orton. Dolph gets a very close second. HHH and HBK was the best raw segment iv'e seen in a very long time and punk slowed down his spot fest, cram everything in, style. Great mic work for punk tonight as usual. he's becoming my favorite on the mic when HHH isn't around. No one can compare with HHH in any catagory as far as i am concernd. And i think it became clear tonight, that if the WWE wants an extra 200,000 buys, and a match of the decade canadate on the card, they should go with HHH vs HBK. Give Cody the Undertaker. He's going 20 and 0 anyway. I give raw 3 out of five stars tonight. I took a half star out because i wanted a Cody/Ziggler tag team match.

HHH vs. HBK shouldn't happen. I must be one of the few people that actually wants to believe that a wrestler can stick to their retirement. They can use HBK at WM but in a guest referee role for the match.

Cody and Ziggler teaming would have made no sense. They are in different EC matches and so I really don't know how it would have worked.

 

[PHX]

I had that hope for Ryder at first cause being in a angle with Cena is pretty good but logically speaking how is he even gonna have time to heal if everytime you turn around guy is getting a new "injury" So don't really see this as something that's really meant to help him exactly or at least in the foreseeable future just seems like someone who was good to use as a prop for this storyline.

 

[Duke Nukem]

I lol'ed at the sign that said fire cole hire shiavone, it seemed to dissapear after about 5 mins though.

 

[Troy]

Why don't people just understand. Ryder was a 2 month merchandising gig. THAT is it. They have him doing this B/C they know he only has 15 minutes of fame and he's used up 12. The best thing they can do for ryder is turn him heel before the fans stop caring.

I am actually surprised at how long his popularity has lasted for. I thought that it would stop once he made it back to RAW but he (and WWE) have done a great job of milking it for all it is worth. I still think that he can remain an over midcarder in the coming years earning a decent wage. I wouldn't turn him heel just yet, I would have him heal from his "injuries" and then I would put him in the MITB match at WM.

 

[Troy]

I had that hope for Ryder at first cause being in a angle with Cena is pretty good but logically speaking how is he even gonna have time to heal if everytime you turn around guy is getting a new "injury" So don't really see this as something that's really meant to help him exactly or at least in the foreseeable future just seems like someone who was good to use as a prop for this storyline.

Well the good news should be that this angle will be finished next week after Elimination Chamber. Then as I mentioned before Ryder should "heal his injuries" and then participate in the MITB match at WM.

 

[The Wrestling Addict]

I don't see HBK ever coming out of retirement and wrestling again. Sure Trips vs. HBK once again would be phenomenal because Shawn can still go but I believe Shawn when he says he is retired for good. I am not exactly thrilled about Triple H vs. Undertaker at Wrestlemania for a third time but with Shawn as special guest referee, it could be interesting. I would love it if Shawn refereed and they brought Nash back as a special guest enforcer. Since all three men are friends and all three have tried for the streak and couldn't end it. Nash and Triple H would have to bury there recent hatchet but that can be easily done with Nash saying he respects Triple H that much more after Triple H took him out with a sledgehammer. Going into Wrestlemania, it would look like the Kliq wants to hold Taker back and end the streak. Undertaker will somehow defeat the odds and go 20-0. Sure, that won't happen but it would be fun.