WS Mafia: Reloaded - GAME THREAD

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Why did you target me specifically?
 

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And also, when do you get told about which role was used? And which roles are options?
 

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I said I was fine with claiming - I'm a Skitzo.

Last night I targeted Odo and it was a randomised kill shot (there are a number of options) - Odo isn't dead, which is why I'm confident he's scum. I don't see that Odo was busdriven with the Godfather or SK, or I was redirected to the Godfather because both of these would be madness on scum's part.

I also have to ask - which is likelier in your view?

You were roleblocked / I was bus driven etc etc or I’m bulletproof scum?
 

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It has nothing to do with me being a skitzo, but this is not the time to talk about this yet. You can do what you need to do in terms of voting or targetting me, whatever you want to do and get all tunnelly, but when a line of questioning does not benefit town, it does not matter how much you push, I'm not going to answer it.

When Odo flips scum, then you can decide whether you trust me or not. It really doesn't bother me whether you pursue me all Day.

I actually think you're probably just bad town from these posts as I don't see you going hard to defend Odo as scum and I still don't see a PM as a scum role - I know this is set up spec. But there are things you can't understand from just simply asking questions.

2012 GOAT era ever, not 2020! etc

Please stop accusing me of tunnelling because you made a dickish post earlier on the game and I'm not letting you go over it. Downplaying my game in a condescending manner because YOU don't like it is not just scummy, it's a dick move.

It has been noted that scum Xenus does not interact with scum mates D1 - you have barely interacted with Magic, someone I'm scum reading and still am, despite his "effort" in the early hours of this morn.

You also made plenty of posts about how you know so much about Magic that you can talk about how he approaches games, how he can lead agendas against players but you CAN'T give a read? How does that benefit town, at all? You refusing to give a read is detrimental to town.

What possible reason could there be that you're able to identify so much about Magic (who was trying to direct a vig to kill someone - now you said you didn't like anyone directing the vig as well) but unable to give a read? I considered it might be to do with your role but then you claimed Skitzo and IIRC skitzo gets a randomised night role (edit for set up spec of my understanding of the role, appreciate it may be different per mod and Xenus has claimed 5 randoma ctions) You've just claimed it was a kill shot that you OMGUSed at Odo for pegging you as scum.

So two options, maybe I misread you as a chilled, nice guy and decent mafia player instead of realising you're literally just deflecting me because I'm new/shit at the game and you're being a dick - this would make sense with how you keep trying to discredit me over "tunnelling" or you're scum and you're trying to discredit me because you know I'm right :)
 
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Why did you target me specifically?

Because my role makes sense to be used on my top scum read N1 because of the risk of the killing role. The roles vary from killing to nothing, so I would not want to risk the random role being used on someone I'm reading town.

The role, once used, is removed from the possibilities so my other roles then increase in probability and I am no longer at risk of killing someone by using my role on them. I targeted you in the belief that I would get some sort of info back in the knowledge that if I kill my top scumread, I'm alright with it.

And also, when do you get told about which role was used? And which roles are options?

After I've used it. I'm not claiming all my roles, but I will say there's 5 of them that vary in usefulness and one of them is nothing and another is obviously the killing role.
 

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Because my role makes sense to be used on my top scum read N1 because of the risk of the killing role. The roles vary from killing to nothing, so I would not want to risk the random role being used on someone I'm reading town.

The role, once used, is removed from the possibilities so my other roles then increase in probability and I am no longer at risk of killing someone by using my role on them. I targeted you in the belief that I would get some sort of info back in the knowledge that if I kill my top scumread, I'm alright with it.



After I've used it. I'm not claiming all my roles, but I will say there's 5 of them that vary in usefulness and one of them is nothing and another is obviously the killing role.

After you’ve used it when?

Did you know you would be killing me last night?
 

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Day started about 14 hours ago and you were posting. Phenom and Rugrat both voted me...


Odo did say I wasn't going to be around for 9 hours to his credit.

Seems like you answered yourself there
 

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Cause I had ‘info’ on me and I wanted to consider it first
A player you were scum reading who was within most people’s PoE had claimed info on you. What is there to consider?
 

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A player you were scum reading who was within most people’s PoE had claimed info on you. What is there to consider?

The info itself? How he claims it? You know, the stuff I’ve been doing for the last few hours
 

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What’s my scum game, Xenus? What exactly would you look for?
 

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Ok so I'm going to summarise my thoughts on my role and why I'm so convinced.

My skitzo role is random. 5 actions ranging from a killing action to nothing happening. I was told once the action had been taken (which to clarify for Odo was when you get results from an action, not at Night) that it was a killing shot, but Odo isn't dead.

I considered the possibility of Odo being busdriven or me being redirected or roleblocked and I don't see any of these as a possibility. I had suspicion on me, which would mean that scum are unlikely to kill me because they could push through a mislynch toDay (especially as it was clear I was the wagon for first thing) and they are not going to redirect me to their Godfather or to a random person who happened to be the SKhe outside chance of the SK, which would be an amazing coincidence - when you hear hooves, think horse not zebra. I

n respect of a roleblock, I don't see that I'd be the target for that and, interestingly enough, Odo also mentioned the same thing here:

Chris might have been an SK kill, stands to reason scum blocked him and tried to kill someone else, and it didn’t work

I do not see when we have a claimed 1xshot killing role in the game that could get through any protection, that you don't as scum roleblock him if you have one available. It's WIFOM, but when you consider the possibility of my info being tampered with, the chances are minute and that is why I'm happy to lynch Odo today.
 
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