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For the discourse - did anybody other than Smark get to 5 votes? Could be a clue as to a team mate given Smark's role.
 

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Oh yeah Mando was still on Ekko at the end it seems that is odd. I thought he'd voted Smark earlier in the day too, am I misremembering that or did he change?
 

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For the discourse - did anybody other than Smark get to 5 votes? Could be a clue as to a team mate given Smark's role.

Haza was busy so we didn't get many vote counts but I think no, most wagons didn't really form
 
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Ace is one I’m leaning mafia on. I didn’t like how he told Tommy he was reading into things too much, makes me wonder why he’d stifle such a thing.

I don’t believe he's being totally honest about his role. I don’t buy the neutral stuff, that’s an Indy at best and mafia at worst. I don’t believe someone who is working for town has to lynch a town player.

Also leaning mafia on Wang. I know him very well and I understand his work circumstances but I’ve been stung too many times by him not having enough time to contribute and then go under the radar at the end. Really need some thoughts from him as soon as he can give them.

Smark is where my vote is probably going - outside of the duel - because I feel like he’s offered up his role in the hope that it gets him out of this position, but by refusing to elaborate further it comes across to me like he’s not prepared to fully commit to it. Makes me doubt how genuine he’s being about it.

Like said was voting Smark but never committed to it. When a majority is needed to yeet, saying it but not doing it is suss to me.
The reason is weak. Imo
 
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Haza was busy so we didn't get many vote counts but I think no, most wagons didn't really form
Ekko and Barry were the closest I think. Juice has 2-3 at some point.
 

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Like said was voting Smark but never committed to it. When a majority is needed to yeet, saying it but not doing it is suss to me.
The reason is weak. Imo

Yeah I'm not sure why he wouldn't have just switched to Smark. We still have a few hours before when deadline was but I don't see why wait at that point

Also look at that Ace, D1 wasn't a no lynch
 

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Yeah I'm not sure why he wouldn't have just switched to Smark. We still have a few hours before when deadline was but I don't see why wait at that point

Also look at that Ace, D1 wasn't a no lynch
A Christmas miracle indeed
 

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Ekko and Barry were the closest I think. Juice has 2-3 at some point.

I think too many of Barry's votes came when others had unvoted lol ekko was probably closest but I think he only had 3 still
 

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How come?
Well if we take Poyser's arguments into consideration he'd be the more logical choice, but also because Smark equally fought tooth and nail to defend Ekko on D1 instead of letting him die.

It just baffles me personally that Smark of all people would be so hung up on trying to discredit the confirmed duelist who was very likely (now confirmed) town, when he's scum. Everyone knew Juice was an erratic player but there's little reason to have read Ekko as a harder town lean over Juice (valuation my ass). I say this because even if I had a slight town lean on Ekko, I still felt like Juice doing what she did was fundamentally town Juice.

The only reason I can think of for Smark to die on this hill is if Ekko was scum with Smark and has a good role. I'm actually kinda bummed we didn't get that flip.
 
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Well if we take Poyser's arguments into consideration he'd be the more logical choice, but also because Smark equally fought tooth and nail to defend Ekko on D1 instead of letting him die.

It just baffles me personally that Smark of all people would be so hung up on trying to discredit the confirmed duelist who was very likely (now confirmed) town, when he's scum. Everyone knew Juice was an erratic player but there's little reason to have read Ekko as a harder town lean over Juice (valuation my ass). I say this because even if I had a slight town lean on Ekko, I still felt like Juice doing what she did was fundamentally town Juice.

The only reason I can think of for Smark to die on this hill is if Ekko was scum with Smark and has a good role. I'm actually kinda bummed we didn't get that flip.

So smark flipping scum is what changed your town lean on Ekko mostly exclusively then? I know you voted him yourself but you said you thought he was town still so that doesn't get weighted lol
 

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So smark flipping scum is what changed your town lean on Ekko mostly exclusively then? I know you voted him yourself but you said you thought he was town still so that doesn't get weighted lol
I mean it also helps Poyser is convincing as fuck too lol, no shame in admitting that.
 
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I will admit that Ekko does not look great, not bad but not great. I still think the duel was t/t because now we know Juice didn’t had TMI.

but ekko needs to step up that pr now.

Tommy and Chris are 100% town for votes and play
SA is most likely town for the smark confrontation

poyser I still think that might have bussed, but town lean for now.

Barry also looks better.

Tpein I kinda agree most D1 with, but some are sussing I would like to know why.
 
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