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Idk if i buy it, you were also reading him hard scum day 1 before flips.

It was obvious they wanted junk to flip D1 so can't read much there, it's just if Peter would bus Barry like he did. I still don't think he was very sus on Peter in general and in fact seemed ready to clear him if junk flipped first right?

Junk to flip D2 I mean
 

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whats the plan tomorrow fellas

based on what im reading, barry makes most sense to pursue.


unless you have objections to why i called the others town/unlikely to be aligned with mafia.

if you don't know pls go look at some of the multis because i want to keep rereading.
 
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why?

are you reading what im posting right now?


if you're not id suggest you do.


peter kept asking for barry to be wagoned since the start of the game but never actually pushed it.

barry's over defensive self never even went at them hard for constantly calling him scum.

throughout peter pushing barry, he always just asked for a lynch opposed to being lynched.

barry, much like the other scum, wanted junk dead and tried to defend peter.

and to be honest, i agreed initially that barry looked town off some of this stuff, but a lot of the back and forth was posturing and half hearted pushing.

my initial case on peter was because he voted barry and never did anything with the vote.

towards the end of day 1 they kept bringing up a barry wagon but never pushed it.

if I may add, a few games ago, peter was part of a large bussing plan where Phenom immediately started day 1 saying we should lynch Peter. Peter eventually flipped scum and Phenom rode that town read to win, even tho he never actually said why peter was scum. did peter ever give any reason WHY barry was scum or vice versa from Barry?
 

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Oh yeah. I'm so confused, why he wasn't just honest from the start.
 

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There was nothing nefarious at all about that role - meh. I feel like an idiot now.
 
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based on what im reading, barry makes most sense to pursue.


unless you have objections to why i called the others town/unlikely to be aligned with mafia.

if you don't know pls go look at some of the multis because i want to keep rereading.
i havent had much objections so far to your reads.

my only concern is juice atm, i agree wit hu sky is likely just being weirdo town sky
i agree with u on dr being town
mostly agree on chris and his role doesnt make much sense as scum and i know his role isnt a recruiter because he didnt recruit me
what do we think about blaze?
also surely doink looks better as well with 4th flipping. assuming they or juice is last indie? maybe juice is a rolecopping arsonist? idk im a bit lost beyond that for 3rd indy
 

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I’ll ISO Barry later. I really gotta take a break and come back fresh with my reads and ISO slots to determine where they fall.
It’s hard to say until we have a full inventory.

I’m comfortable with either direction today. Literally one of them has to be scum. There’s no way around it.

even tho peter has continued calling barry scum and sus and is even voting for barry at the moment of his post, he literally has no interest in lynching barry for the phase lol.

he is suggesting to lynch blaze, which again means blaze is town.

If we want to really discuss the reasoning why I'm voting for Junk, it really has a lot to do with originally our interactions regarding Ekko's claim in early D1. I voted her because I wished for a claim at first, because she was sketchy in the early game and felt as if she wasn't actually progressing the game much further, just arguing semantics regarding the legitimacy of the miller claim. Admittedly, I had done the same but I merely wanted to point out that Miller was not a very good role to pull or a fake to claim. Now that Ekko's flipped, it's whatever.

Then of course there's her whole play around Magic. She claims to not be reading Magic but then she goes and fence-sits on the subject when I prod her further. She likes what Magic is posting but then claims that he's pocketing her. It's very hedge-betting on the subject of whether or not a Magic push would be possible and opportune for her to hop on without looking bad based on this.

Then of course there's her open defense of Peter, which we have talked about ad nauseum. I don't think scum junk openly defends her teammate like this, and I even mentioned that Junk is notorious for bussing. It very much feels like it is setting up Peter to take a fall following her flip today, which *should* happen frankly.

The gift giver claim doesn't move the needle from these suspicions since the beginning of the game, so frankly, what exactly are you expecting from me here, Junk? You claim it's role spec, and that's not true. You claim it's for dumb reasons, but are these really as dumb as you're painting them out to be?

So yeah. :francis


barry defending peter.
 
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I am more than happy to be put on the block for POE tomorrow to be honest - I have no words at the moment.
 

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i havent had much objections so far to your reads.

my only concern is juice atm, i agree wit hu sky is likely just being weirdo town sky
i agree with u on dr being town
mostly agree on chris and his role doesnt make much sense as scum and i know his role isnt a recruiter because he didnt recruit me
what do we think about blaze?
also surely doink looks better as well with 4th flipping. assuming they or juice is last indie? maybe juice is a rolecopping arsonist? idk im a bit lost beyond that for 3rd indy

rolecop tracker makes the most sense fwiw

juice is confusing for me too but i think there's enough there that she shouldn't be priority.

honestly everyone but barry looks town to me for one reason or another.
 
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so barry +, maybe its blaine/alco after all?
 
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