WS Christmas Mafia 2021

[Marty McFourth]

Do you leave the game if you win?

Nah, I have to wait until the end when either side has won and then I win alongside them assuming my 3 predictions have been correct.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

As always don't hunt off flavor, mafia have been given fakes of unspecified quality

So, this says mafia has fake claims. I don’t think an indie would have a fake claim and the Virgin Mary is probably not something someone would have confidence fake claiming without being given it.

 

[Marty McFourth]

I'm not sure if I buy the claim to be honest. There was no need to out your role at this point - because the only pressure was coming from me. There is a chance this is a very clever tactic to convince town you are an indie - so you can just park your vote with agreed bandwagon to falsify you have achieved a win condition.

Also - looking back, I originally asked you to only claim flavour - because I knew at the time you were going to lie to us.
And now that you have just admitted you have - just like blackjack, im going to have to double down

Why would I randomly come out with a fake claim like this though as Mafia? Nobody was really sussing me tbh outside of you. I certainly wasn't under pressure to do this. Other people will vouch me for that I'm awful at faking claims.

 

[CakeWalker]

Why would I randomly come out with a fake claim like this though as Mafia? Nobody was really sussing me tbh outside of you. I certainly wasn't under pressure to do this. Other people will vouch me for that I'm awful at faking claims.

Well either way you've already outed a fake claim - and a lot of people believed the Seraph Knight/Virgin Mary claim. So...

 

[Marty McFourth]

Well either way you've already outed a fake claim - and a lot of people believed the Seraph Knight/Virgin Mary claim. So...

Exactly, so why would I drop that unless I was telling the truth about my role? Trust me on this, I am not your guy when it comes to making clever plays as scum or fakeable roles, I just try and blend in and hope for the best.

 

[CakeWalker]

Stating you can still win with either side - doesn't make you a safe bet though, even if you are an indie. It means if things start going badly for town, - mafia can use you to tip the scales in their favour and give them an extra number.

 

[Marty McFourth]

Legit the only reason I got idea to fake claim Seraph Knight was because Jeff had proposed a theory that was it

 

[Marty McFourth]

Stating you can still win with either side - doesn't make you a safe bet though, even if you are an indie. It means if things start going badly for town, - mafia can use you to tip the scales in their favour and give them an extra number.

That's fair enough, but town is in good standing so unless my POE is terrible I don't see us losing this game. Or like Magic is scum, but that's just paranoia talking.

 

[CakeWalker]

Also - your win condition means, that you are also influenced to lynch someone based on who you think will die - and not about whether they are actually town or mafia. If you just win with either side - you have no loyalty.

 

[Marty McFourth]

Also - your win condition means, that you are also influenced to lynch someone based on who you think will die - and not about whether they are actually town or mafia. If you just win with either side - you have no loyalty.

All my lynch choices have been who I think will flip scum, it's why I predicted Juice and Wang as I didn't think they were town.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Also - your win condition means, that you are also influenced to lynch someone based on who you think will die - and not about whether they are actually town or mafia. If you just win with either side - you have no loyalty.

This is a really good post. Where was this Juice at the start of the game? like this is pretty true.. tfw could just vote for who they picked, just to meet his win conditions and then coast to end of the game. I believe this over them being scum. But I really hope he’s trying to help town win this.

 

[Marty McFourth]

Meant to say Junk there, damn the J's.

 

[CakeWalker]

An element of trust is involved here - and trust is not a currency I trade with whilst playing mafia.

 

[Marty McFourth]

Well you guys can HELP me to predict the right choices now, rather than who I think has best chance of dying. As that was what my Juice pick currently is, not that I think she's scum. So I want to change it.

 

[Marty McFourth]

All this time, I thought Juice always trusted me