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Marty McFourth

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Why would anyone lie about being a stump tho. This is kind of a no duh,no one implied she was lying about the role

Fair, scum Stumps are a thing. I just think her play lines up with being town more. Junk flipping scum would help to clear her up for me too.
 

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Yeah shit this is bad. Setting up a me or junk are likely scum is sketchy. You played with me last game so u thinking im scum is quite frankly mind blowing. Mb u missed posts. Switching votes n going from leading to following is something I do every single town game as well.

Hopefully this is simply bad reads because yeah, this junk or Jeff thing in this post is hot garbage

I mean I do think a Junk flips helps me to get a clearer idea of you, so that is why I said that with regards to you both. I can see why it looks like setting up mislynches, but it's just how my thought process panned out. I don't feel I really played with you enough as scum to have knowledge of your game like that, I just didn't like the voting patterns but if it's your town game, I feel better about that.
 

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Anyways see ya later. I at least agree Junk looks shit. Picking Blaine as a scum suspect also feels lazy but I guess I'll fully read post flip :)

I'd usually agree but he's promised to catch-up twice and hasn't, so pressure is good imo. But it's definitely more of a pressuring thing with him.
 

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Also, Jeff when I suspect you it's never an insult my friend, It's just hard for me to trust ya as town. Not expecting to be right about everything I've thrown down after reading so much, but ya I like those responses. Interacting helps.
 

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why not vote one of the main wagons opposed to just being on ekko at the end of phase when that isn't going to go through lol?

Because I disagreed with the main wagons.

I have on multiple occasions medium-softed my role and even my flavour.

Surely you'd accept that your vague approach was off-putting?

acrually @Lethal Banks top 3 town and scum pls

I've provided a town list, maybe you can go dig it up.
 

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why did u ignore the rest of the players voting peter before me?

I buy their votes as genuine. You're being opportunistic and latching onto anything that moves.

hold on u scum read me but u also join a wagon i am voting for kek

when did that thought process evolve lethal. what happened

I'm taking almost zero notice of the BS you're putting out. Coincidence that I fell on the same wagon.

btw eggnog shud be policy lynched if she doesnt stop this play
if we do not punish that play it will become a habit to just giga troll like that and the quality of the games in this site wud drop right away

The absolute irony of you bagging someone out for their negative playstyle :oops
 
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what if mafia are red colored chrismas aligned?

is there any townie other than me thats red color chrismas aligned?

i thought i had that cuz miller

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Town are Christmas aligned or Christmas aligned.

Like for fucks sake how ignorant can you be? It's been spelled out to you numerous times. But then again you still can't fathom your no result from Die Hard so the bar is very low :shrug:

no hold on
how are we sure mafia isnt called christmas aligned as well?

why not say "i am town" instead?

Because Christmas is the town alignment. Dear me.
 

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I'm pretty comfortable with putting Fourth in the town list for me. I don't think they really put this much effort in if repping in as scum. Would love a claim in the morning though. All we got from Jonny was a character.
 

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Righto, I did a thing and got an answer

Sky's statement that she is Christmas aligned is true

Thanks for clearing up that slot.

aight cool

[vote lynch lethal]

:lmao

On topic of Blaine, him not knowing what to contribute and posting nothing at all as a result used to be his main scum tell, so make of that what you will.

Correct. I'd have hoped he would move on from that.
 

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i cant comment on the lethal/sky thingie since i have no knowledge of their past quarrel.i just see lethal being too forced and concerned about keeping players in the PoE, rather than clearning them. the letha/sky interactions dragged on too long and went literally nowhere after that. if sky is town here, i seriously doubt lethal is but we'll see

shouldnt that alone warrant a jobber lynch or push? if he has no content outside of mechanical talk in 48 hours its a really bad look already

blaine is inactive regardless of alignment, but i generally did not like his willingness to claim easily after being questioned once. which posts u mean when he questioned town reads i dont remember anyone town reading him to begin with. i think he was just saying he never did anything to warrant a claim thats all. dont remember if he did talk about ppl town reading him, or if ppl actually even town read him. if so, who town read him?

Forced? I've cleared people with slight town leans because a) I'm not capable of clearing on day 1 and b) it's fucking day 1.

I wouldn't be surprised if Junk and Showtime are on scum alligned or a third party team tbh

You know I agree with this partially because Junk seems to be, as I originally stated, being cautious of open-wolfing in this game when there's people who are awake to it now. Happy to fall behind others and ruffle some feathers without shaking the bird.

honestly think he's the way, but i'd prefer juice over peter based on strenght of player alone and that's not a knock on Juice. Peter's lovely

Ah I read this wrong and clears up what Chris & Tweet had mentioned to me. My bad.

what r the odds we got all them sons of scums in one day and now we dont know which dish to eat first

It would be up there with the absolute shit the bed moment of the scum team in 2019 Xmas mafia who fucked up their math, wagon piled in what they thought was lylo, and were picked up one by one.

It me, falling on a grenade for my scummate Jobber Doink.

Man you'd be the type to open wolf like this.
 
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I'm down

Town cleared

so you basically do not scum read any of them??

[vote lynch peter]

Scum lean

I mean it should hopefully help where to go next. So sure

Vote Peter

Null

vote repet

do we have a vote count?

Town lean

Unvote

Vote Peter


This is a wagon I'm more than fine with, he and I have gone back and forth before earlier and it didn't really assuage me much.

Town lean. I'm curious though on this back and forth because I forget it even happened.

I’d rather vote scum. I just don’t see it in Peter

Vote Juice

I’m fine with this.

Well looks like we've found a connection here if Peter is actually scum. This is what I was thinking in regards to her looking 'bad' after the wagon.

Yeah that's the dilemma.

I think lynch is probably better so at least we get something to go off of

Sorry Peter if you're town but you can probably rep back in we got some inactives

Vote Peter

:pull setting up for the "oh fuck we were wrong but rep cop out." Hmm.

Vote Peter

yeah fuck it

I don't know how to read this because I loved your nitpicking of Jeff changing tune on Peter, but this feels as though it's a vote for the sake of seeing someone swing.

I don't anticipate being available to post until Day pops around so, have fun night posting

Interested in Lethal going forward, though, he seems to be one to watch

:lmao

Sorry just finished worked a crap ton of hours due to covid. Reading back through now.

Turns up just after the phase ends. Avoiding the thread to not push a vote on a team mate maybe?

Did we lynch retep yet?

:confused

Likely won't be on until tomorrow afternoon.

I strongly suggest NOT VISITING ME TONIGHT. you will be very upset...

Oh joy.

I'm not buying junk at all here

I concur.

Not a big fan of Jeff either tbh.

:lmao right after Fourth calls it out. You didn't have the courage of conviction to push this at ALL by yourself.

Before you get juicy, mind clarifying what you mean about Junk here?

Cause Junk was very notably not on the wagon come end day.

Yeah I was mistaken.
 
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Blainhausen **NULL**
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RetepAdam.
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Sky
Hans Gruber
Zinger Burger **NULL**
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Tweet - Lie Detector
CraigPelton **NULL**
Showtime
Jobber Doink
Dr_Professor83 - Actor
Ekkologix - Miller
Alibaba **NULL**
Junkette
Wang Chung **NULL**

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Day 1 Final Vote Count

Barry (2) - Peter
Juice (1) - Tweet
Peter (10) - CP, TPein, Jeff, Sky, Ekko, Blaze, Magic, Barry, Doddsy, Chris
Doink (1) - DrProf, Lethal

Only thing preventing me having Ekko as a solid scum read is the miller claim and me doubting Haza makes it a fake. His play has been trash and the 180 on Retep when the actor was detected just smells. There was a vote count prior to deadline and nothing said. Actor and DV do not have to be the same alignment, so using that as a basis to flip his stance on Peter is a red flag.

Pein just showing up at the end of the day and not playing with his usual spice raises red flags for me as well. It's kind of to the point I forgot he was even playing the game.

Doink is just a gut feel as I've not noticed much. I want to go back through later tonight and check any of his past scum games to see if there's any consistencies.

Junk, as I've said, seems content to sit back behind fall guys whilst taking her little shots, petrified of being exposed with open wolfing which she was allowed to run rampant with in Die Hard. I'd hazard a guess to say she's fearful of Magic who knows her game like a book and is being overly cautious. The huge red flags are the Retep comment "anyone but Retep" and then saying Jeff appears shady almost straight after Fourth brings it up. She had made zero mention of this suspicion prior.
 
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Day 1 Final Vote Count

Barry (2) - Peter
Juice (1) - Tweet
Peter (10) - CP, TPein, Jeff, Sky, Ekko, Blaze, Magic, Barry, Doddsy, Chris
Doink (1) - DrProf, Lethal

The day has ended in a no lynch, the more the merrier as they say.

It is now Night 1, you have 24 hours to submit your actions. Night may end early if everyone submits actions prior to the 24 hour deadline.

Night talking is permitted.
Welp looks like I picked a horrible time to go to sleep and leave my vote where it was, sorry fellas
 
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