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With what Jeff bought to my attention about Wang, yeah. Then I guess that's where I'll put my vote down for now.

VOTE WANG
 

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I would say meta is quite important when it comes to me because of how I play. I'm very calculated when I'm scum.

Magic/CP/Lethal/Chris/Ekko most likely.
tfw putting me in his town core is encouraging because if he was scum he would want to push me into POE at this point since other people seem to be considering it for some reason
 
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I'm a motion detector btw, used it on Peter n1 and detected nothing so that's why he dropped in priority over Junk's blatant scumminess from n1
 

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was going to use it again last night but didn't know what the claims were
 
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We decided how we are handling this phase yet? We could have a very long day or a very long night with no Christmas Day deadlines. Not sure who I'd flip outside of Wang today though, ideally I see that flip and I'll work from there.

Fine with what we do either way. I obviously won't be around much tomorrow, as most people won't.

vote Wang
yeah if others come in im not opposed but i do think its the safest lynch today with the least amount of downside?
 

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so in past Christmas mafia games we have had scum cops and scum hiders and even a game where both the cop and hider were scum. we've also had a SK who was only BP when he didn't shoot at night (I think it was me and I won)
 

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so in past Christmas mafia games we have had scum cops and scum hiders and even a game where both the cop and hider were scum. we've also had a SK who was only BP when he didn't shoot at night (I think it was me and I won)

So at least it’s not just me that gives sks extra protection when they don’t shoot.
 

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so in past Christmas mafia games we have had scum cops and scum hiders and even a game where both the cop and hider were scum. we've also had a SK who was only BP when he didn't shoot at night (I think it was me and I won)
well we have 2 cops (that fail if both use) and a hider. though if doink is to be believed we are only looking for 2 more scum
 

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If Han’s is telling the truth, then that’s a big red flag on Blaine’s ability to me, because why would town or neutral indie have anything to do with a mafia recruiting mechanic? Also Tweet seemed fine with getting the coal, so he didn’t seem scared of the speculation that it hurts scum:
I don't mind having coal thrown in my face tonight btw
And Junk quickly got on board with the claim:
Yea can’t see anyone really coming up with that as a fake tbh.
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I think Jobber is probably town at this point but I did take note of him not wanting to lie detect Jobber. That plus Pete’s reaction to the Jobber read accusations will probably keep Jobber on the outside of my POE forever. But I won’t be really worried about him unless T-Pein is scum.
Doink is a bit low key so far but I think he's someone we can gain a play based read on down the line. Same goes for Chris.

I think I'm about ready to make an executive decision and use it on Sky. Any last words?
He was also quick to call Jobber Town for the T-Pein thing, but I mean, I also think that’s a major point for Jobber probably being town and not every town read given out by scum is them helping a buddy. It’s just notable when combined with the lie detect post + Pete’s Jobber stuff.
Oh this be good point actually, it doesn't have to be that one of them is lying. Also the earlier point that scum probably don't visit T-Pein assuming he's town and telling the truth about being Bomb/PGO. Sooo Doink likely town?
On T-Pein it’s still notable that Pete and Junk were down to test the bomb. But they definitely could have just been calling his bluff. Considering it’s T-Pein it’s pretty reasonable to xaml
You guys want me too test the bomb claim? A

If that’s the route you want to go, I’m fine with it.

I can die doing what I loved: voting.

Also on Tweet I thought this was interesting. I can see a world where Blaze is scum and this is a way to tie Zinger to him if he ever flips. He actually brought them up as teammates multiple times D1. But overall Blaze has looked pretty townie to me.
The Blaze/Zinger interaction up to page 8 strikes me as fake, if one flips scum ima say there's good potential for the other to be scum as well.
And here’s a notable quote on Junk giving the gift to Blaze from Tweet that I thought I should pull back up when going through Tweet’s posts:
Ye this is a pretty good point, the question is why give it to Blaze anyway? If Junk is scum, it could be either to buddy Blaze, or maybe the gift is something useful like an extra kill which she gave to her teammate. Though in that last case I'm not sure they'd be quite this transparent about it.
 
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If Han’s is telling the truth, then that’s a big red flag on Blaine’s ability to me, because why would town or neutral indie have anything to do with a mafia recruiting mechanic? Also Tweet seemed fine with getting the coal, so he didn’t seem scared of the speculation that it hurts scum:

And Junk quickly got on board with the claim:

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I think Jobber is probably town at this point but I did take note of him not wanting to lie detect Jobber. That plus Pete’s reaction to the Jobber read accusations will probably keep Jobber on the outside of my POE forever. But I won’t be really worried about him unless T-Pein is scum.

He was also quick to call Jobber Town for the T-Pein thing, but I mean, I also think that’s a major point for Jobber probably being town and not every town read given out by scum is them helping a buddy. It’s just notable when combined with the lie detect post + Pete’s Jobber stuff.

On T-Pein it’s still notable that Pete and Junk were down to test the bomb. But they definitely could have just been calling his bluff. Considering it’s T-Pein it’s pretty reasonable to xaml




Also on Tweet I thought this was interesting. I can see a world where Blaze is scum and this is a way to tie Zinger to him if he ever flips. He actually brought them up as teammates multiple times D1. But overall Blaze has looked pretty townie to me.

And here’s a notable quote on Junk giving the gift to Blaze from Tweet that I thought I should pull back up when going through Tweet’s posts:
both junk and peter wanting to test the bomb is very interesting!!!!
 
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