Would you create another PPV streak?

[Just Kevin]

No. No I wouldn't.

 

[The GOAT]

I would, but as mentioned, the streak should probably only exist if it was one that wasn't predestined from the start, pretty much for the reasons that Leo C touched upon.

Up until 2012, John Cena had never been defeated at Survivor Series. And if he had won that year, 2014 would have marked the year that he hit the big 10-0. He had a pretty good string of victories, too - a sole survivor of three separate elimination matches (2003, 2004, 2006), defeated Kurt Angle in 2005, defeated Chris Jericho to win the WHC in 2008, defeated Triple H and Shawn Michaels in a triple-threat match in 2009, teamed with The Rock to defeat The Miz and R-Truth in 2011. It's a shame that the company didn't take notice as they could have kept it going longer and built it into something bigger. Oh well.

If Brock Lesnar hadn't of lost to Kurt Angle in '03, he'd have an undefeated Summerslam record, too - The Rock in 2002, HHH in 2012, CM Punk in 2013, presumably Cena this year, etc. And hot damn, that'd be a hell of a record, made even more impressive by the fact that Brock took Taker's Wrestlemania streak away from him.

As an alternate idea, I think having an undefeated record in a certain type of stipulation match would be great, too. HHH was 'undefeated' (you'll understand my use of the quotation marks if you've seen Armageddon 2000) in Hell In A Cell matches until Vengeance 2005, for example. I don't know if someone is already off to a good start in a stipulation match or not, but it's something to think about.

 

[Red Rain]

It would definitely be someone who could work a variety of matches and/or places on the card.
Seth Rollins, for example, who isn't a main eventer yet could scoot by a win here and there at Summerslam.
When he does main event, he won't be there month and month out the way John Cena is.
The only problem is that once WWE brands it as a streak the superstar has to have the mystique to pull it out year in and year out even though the fans know he'll win.
It would probably have to be a bigger guy than Rollins.

 

[Leo C]

I also think a match stipulation streak sounds better. Unlike a PPV event, a stipulation isn't something that comes by a certain time of the year and thus they would have to go out of their way to book the dude in storylines where he'd win, it's something that can be implemented in any feud he has at any time. Plus, it makes more sense, when you think about it. A guy being undefeated in a certain type of match can be explained by him being more skilled with, say, ladders if he were to be undefeated in ladder matches, instead of someone being undefeated at, say, Summerslam because... it's Summerslam (not that this would make any difference, just something that came to mind).

 

[seabs]

Has Cena lost a LMS match? Bryan should have been pushed as unbeaten in submission matches imo, it fits his moveset very well.

 

[Leo C]

Has Cena lost a LMS match? Bryan should have been pushed as unbeaten in submission matches imo, it fits his moveset very well.

I think he lost one to Del Rio in 2011. Has Bryan ever been in a submission match in WWE? Can't recall it.

 

[Red Rain]

I kind argue with the 'stipulation' logic.
If built correctly, Vince could make his backpocket full of this kind of idea.
Since Taker jobbed his own a**, it would be nice to have another replace it.
It would take some time, but a highlight package of a ladder match stop would be sweet as f***

John Cena has never lost an I quit match, has he?

 

[seabs]

I think he lost one to Del Rio in 2011. Has Bryan ever been in a submission match in WWE? Can't recall it.

Didn't he win that one at Vengeance leafing into HIAC?

 

[Leo C]

I kind argue with the 'stipulation' logic.
If built correctly, Vince could make his backpocket full of this kind of idea.
Since Taker jobbed his own a**, it would be nice to have another replace it.
It would take some time, but a highlight package of a ladder match stop would be sweet as f***

John Cena has never lost an I quit match, has he?

No he hasn't.

 

[Leo C]

Didn't he win that one at Vengeance leafing into HIAC?

I have the image in my mind of them wrestling in a broken ring as Miz and Truth interfere costing Cena the win. I think Cena pinned him at NoC for the belt, ADR won it back at HIAC and then retained at Vengeance. One way or the other Del Rio won the LMS (on a side note, how much did all that suck lol, while Henry was killing everyone on SD by comparison).

 

[seabs]

You're probably right actually, I don't tend to rewatch much of Cena.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Cena losing a LMS in wiki form http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vengeance_(2011)

DESTINYYYYY :

 

[seabs]

Yeah I was wrong, IDK why but I thought it was before HIAC then ADR won it back.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I don't remember much of the Cena/ADR feud, but going over Cena in a LMS is basically the 2nd largest rub you can get, outside of making the smurf tap of course.

Crazy that WWE would go that hard in booking him in a match but then negate it completely by sending him out to cut the exact same damn promo for 3 years straight and then wonder why he isn't over.

 

[Red Rain]

I don't remember much of the Cena/ADR feud, but going over Cena in a LMS is basically the 2nd largest rub you can get, outside of making the smurf tap of course.

Crazy that WWE would go that hard in booking him in a match but then negate it completely by sending him out to cut the exact same damn promo for 3 years straight and then wonder why he isn't over.

Possibly because he got complacent and stopped giving a f***.