World of Horror: An End of the World MAFIA Game Thread

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i think the way claiming is mandatory here? the section should maybe move to plurality lynch but thats just imo
 

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Town shouldn’t be rewarded if they can’t hammer.

Imagine be scum and lynched when town couldn’t even agree you were scum. It would be the worst.
 

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i think the way claiming is mandatory here? the section should maybe move to plurality lynch but thats just imo

I think because they don't play role madness so they rely less on roles and more on claiming.
 

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shouldn't we have a cohost if we have day actions?
not a fan of this fake duel scenario.
 

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phenom lethal necrco TFW and jeff probably town. rly cant tell much

abi maesro lucha and tpein probably scum of some sort

some legacy day 1 grain of salt reads from someone not reading half the day. lets see how many of them are right
 

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im cooperating with town

not claiming is in towns favor
Book of Gabriel - Chapter 6, Verse 51: "What you need to recognize in this is that Mafia is a game of information. How that information is controlled is usually what seperates winning from losing. Town need to find who is trying to manipulate information to mislead them, and Scum need to manipulate information in a way that makes it hard for the Town to recognize that the information is manipulated.

Claiming is just one of many sources of information. When the Town asks a player to claim, the risks in doing so are that it provides information to Scum as to who is what role, and who needs to be killing in the Night Phase. This is why claiming should be done in a restricted way, such as only a couple of players who are candidates for a Lynch each Day Phase. Reveal too much information too soon and the game becomes very hard for the Town. However, refusing to claim in the face of this does not save anything. If one refuses to claim, they will instead be lynched. A lynched Town role, is worse than a Town role that is exposed. Because the Town only have a finite amount of mislynches before they lose the game.

As Town, when asked to claim by a clear consensus, one should always oblige, for this very reason. If you happen to be a strong role, at the very least you will be forcing Scum to use resources to handle you, such as kills or roleblocks. If you refuse to claim because you worry you'll be exposing information to scum, then your role will be dead, which is a win for scum, it will be dead through them having not had to use any resources on achieving that, which is another win for Scum, and you would be a mislynch, which is yet another win for scum. Thus, refusing to claim in this context is play that is only helping Scum, and hurting Town. Phrased alternatively, you could say it is playing against the Town win-condition.

Understanding this concept is crucial to doing well in games that allow claiming, otherwise you will only be in for a frustrating time.
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This constant fake duel talk is starting t sound like tmi.

:worried
 

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shouldn't we have a cohost if we have day actions?
not a fan of this fake duel scenario.

I would have offered to cohost, but he wanted me to play.
 

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Town shouldn’t be rewarded if they can’t hammer.

Imagine be scum and lynched when town couldn’t even agree you were scum. It would be the worst.
they dont have to reach majority

plurality could be 1 vote less than the majroty. it allows for counter wagons and rewards vote tracking

town will still need to agree to lynch scum cuz scum can just make the 2nd wagon large so yea ur still rewarded
 

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This constant fake duel talk is starting t sound like tmi.

:worried

Yes I have TOO MUCH INFORMATION on how these duels are carried out.
Host makes an announcement.
until I see it I will not believe it.
I want host to tell him.
You action was not processed since the phase ended.
 

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Yes I have TOO MUCH INFORMATION on how these duels are carried out.
Host makes an announcement.
until I see it I will not believe it.
I want host to tell him.
You action was not processed since the phase ended.

The duel was triggered before the phase ended though.
 

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Book of Gabriel - Chapter 6, Verse 51: "What you need to recognize in this is that Mafia is a game of information. How that information is controlled is usually what seperates winning from losing. Town need to find who is trying to manipulate information to mislead them, and Scum need to manipulate information in a way that makes it hard for the Town to recognize that the information is manipulated.

Claiming is just one of many sources of information. When the Town asks a player to claim, the risks in doing so are that it provides information to Scum as to who is what role, and who needs to be killing in the Night Phase. This is why claiming should be done in a restricted way, such as only a couple of players who are candidates for a Lynch each Day Phase. Reveal too much information too soon and the game becomes very hard for the Town. However, refusing to claim in the face of this does not save anything. If one refuses to claim, they will instead be lynched. A lynched Town role, is worse than a Town role that is exposed. Because the Town only have a finite amount of mislynches before they lose the game.

As Town, when asked to claim by a clear consensus, one should always oblige, for this very reason. If you happen to be a strong role, at the very least you will be forcing Scum to use resources to handle you, such as kills or roleblocks. If you refuse to claim because you worry you'll be exposing information to scum, then your role will be dead, which is a win for scum, it will be dead through them having not had to use any resources on achieving that, which is another win for Scum, and you would be a mislynch, which is yet another win for scum. Thus, refusing to claim in this context is play that is only helping Scum, and hurting Town. Phrased alternatively, you could say it is playing against the Town win-condition.

Understanding this concept is crucial to doing well in games that allow claiming, otherwise you will only be in for a frustrating time.
"
hey how about u answer this tho

why am i a wagon and not u or anyone else?

why am i being asked to claim and not any of u?

do u see where the problem is? its not about claiming only its about what got town to the point of asking me to claim.

i dont see anything in my play leading to that so in not gna rly claim for no reason. i simply think no lynch is better than this duel.

u say dead town role is worst than claimed role. yea ofc. but a living mysterious town role is better than living claimed role

im not planning to die. ill defend myself as much as i can without claiming. i dont actually see a proper case on me nor a reason why i am being asked to claim other than duellist being trigger happer so yea its not rly something in my control here
 
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