[WON] Triple H in Full Control of Hall of Fame Inductions

[Smart Marx]

If I'm honest the whole storyline should have been Hogan vs. Sting and Luger with the title acting as the guy who Hogan can't beat so he sends his minions after all of the autumn.

They spent so much time building towards the Sting Title match. They probably fear changing the storyline at that point, but yet having Hogan take the belt back so quickly did kind of ruined what could’ve been a great story.

 

[Sabretooth]

Turning Luger heel in 99 was so stupid. I mean even as a fan of the Wolfpac Elite Luger heel in 99 was so stupid.

I mean as a fan of the Wolfpac elite I did like Luger in it in a way, because I thought he was a cool member of the group.

But, like it was just the epitome of what WCW booking was doing in 1999. There were so many turns in those first six months well really the whole year but especially those first six months and is a huge Factor in why the ratings started to change the way they did. They turned Flair heel. They turn DDP heel. They turned Luger heel. They turn Nash heel. And Nash became like the second most over guy in the company in 1998 so that was like the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Returning macho man herl after returning almost a year later.

Like who the fuck were you supposed to be rooting for that point? So stupid.

Tell ‘em Brandon!

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

If I'm honest the nWo needed to start dying by late 1998.

 

[Sabretooth]

Miss Elizabeth not being in the Hall is a real shock too. She’s one of those stars where I always think they’re in the hall and I’m like oh shit they’re not?

she was the true definition of a wrestling valet. She was such a huge part of Macho Man’s success and fuck if they’re going to put Sharmell in for managing Booker T than Elizabeth more than deserves it

 

[Brandon Blaze]

Turning Luger heel in 99 was so stupid. I mean even as a fan of the Wolfpac Elite Luger heel in 99 was so stupid.

I mean as a fan of the Wolfpac elite I did like Luger in it in a way, because I thought he was a cool member of the group.

But, like it was just the epitome of what WCW booking was doing in 1999. There were so many turns in those first six months well really the whole year but especially those first six months and is a huge Factor in why the ratings started to change the way they did. They turned Flair heel. They turn DDP heel. They turned Luger heel. They turn Nash heel. And Nash became like the second most over guy in the company in 1998 so that was like the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Returning macho man herl after returning almost a year later.

Like who the fuck were you supposed to be rooting for that point? So stupid.

Buff Bagwell

 

[Smart Marx]

If I'm honest the nWo needed to start dying by late 1998.

I mean basically was, but Bishoff didn’t know how to handle the politics between Nash and Hogan because by December there should’ve been either a giant Wolfpack versus Hollywood match or they should’ve been a Nash versus Hogan singles match. Can you imagine how much hogan versus Nash would have drawn after spending a whole year building up the whole Wolfpack versus Hollywood story line but instead because they couldn’t work it out politically behind the scenes they just put the group back together.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

I mean basically was, but Bishoff didn’t know how to handle the politics between Nash and Hogan because by December there should’ve been either a giant Wolfpack versus Hollywood match or they should’ve been a Nash versus Hogan singles match. Can you imagine how much hogan versus Nash would have drawn after spending a whole year building up the whole Wolfpack versus Hollywood story line but instead because they couldn’t work it out politically behind the scenes they just put the group back together.

and thus the issue with creative control and wage matching. Bischoff can gather as many people as possible but he was a massive bitch when it came to leadership.

 

[Sabretooth]

Luger isn’t in great shape either. It’d be nice to let him get his induction before he passes away. Just my two cents

 

[Smart Marx]

and thus the issue with creative control and wage matching. Bischoff can gather as many people as possible but he was a massive bitch when it came to leadership.

Bischoff likes to constantly call Melzer a liar but like if you read the reports from 1998 they’re so detailed I don’t think he was making this shit up. And he talks about how hard it was to do the Wolfpac storyline because the two camps are constantly politicking against each other. Which is a shame because the Wolfpac storyline was one of the most over things in WCW at the time in the buildup of it was great. I will die on the hill they’re great till around June 1998 as the Wolfpac angle had a great starting foundation but then it just went nowhere and there was no real Wolfpac versus Hollywood matches except for a couple I think tag team title matches between Scott Hall, giant, and Nash and sting but other than that that angle went nowhere and had no payoff and it’s such a shame because it would’ve drawn money.

 

[Smart Marx]

Luger isn’t in great shape either. It’d be nice to let him get his induction before he passes away. Just my two cents

Yeah, I was saying that earlier. I agree.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Bischoff likes to constantly call Melzer a liar but like if you read the reports from 1998 they’re so detailed I don’t think he was making this shit up. And he talks about how hard it was to do the Wolfpac storyline because the two camps are constantly politicking against each other. Which is a shame because the Wolfpac storyline was one of the most over things in WCW at the time in the buildup of it was great. I will die on the hill they’re great till around June 1998 as the Wolfpac angle had a great starting foundation but then it just went nowhere and there was no real Wolfpac versus Hollywood matches except for a couple I think tag team title matches between Scott Hall, giant, and Nash and sting but other than that that angle went nowhere and had no payoff and it’s such a shame because it would’ve drawn money.

Didn't Meltzer have Bruce Pritchard and Terry Taylor stooging to him?

 

[Brandon Blaze]

Bischoff likes to constantly call Melzer a liar but like if you read the reports from 1998 they’re so detailed I don’t think he was making this shit up. And he talks about how hard it was to do the Wolfpac storyline because the two camps are constantly politicking against each other. Which is a shame because the Wolfpac storyline was one of the most over things in WCW at the time in the buildup of it was great. I will die on the hill they’re great till around June 1998 as the Wolfpac angle had a great starting foundation but then it just went nowhere and there was no real Wolfpac versus Hollywood matches except for a couple I think tag team title matches between Scott Hall, giant, and Nash and sting but other than that that angle went nowhere and had no payoff and it’s such a shame because it would’ve drawn money.

Wolfpac forever my favorite NWO.

 

[Smart Marx]

Didn't Meltzer have Bruce Pritchard and Terry Taylor stooging to him?

I believe so. I also think Sullivan might’ve been stewing to him as well.

 

[Smart Marx]

I still think the first 6 to 7 months of 1998 WCW was some of their best television ever, and the creation of the Wolfpac was a large part of it. The way they had the NWO splinter and fall apart after losing to Sting was great television. It’s a shame that Bischoff had that meeting with the Time Warner executive that basically told him to change how he was doing WCW and then he just stopped giving a shit and you can tell right around September is when he stopped caring.

 

[Smart Marx]

Didn't Meltzer have Bruce Pritchard and Terry Taylor stooging to him?

Also, how I know that at least this part of the reports are true because Nash and hall have come on record in many shoots corroborating a lot of those reports. Nash even came right out and said, do you think Scott hall just chose to be with the black and white uncool guys because he wanted to?