Without Ambrose what will Rollins do at NoC?

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Lesnar's a mercenary, Rollins and Kane work on behalf of the Authority, if Lesnar goes against the Authority in anyway Kane will possibly step in and weaken him additionally to whatever work Cena or whomever Brock may be facing at that point can do and that would essentially allow Seth to cash-in. Kane sees Seth as a weaker opponent than Brock and Kane wants the title too so why wouldn't he help Rollins get it to have a more formidable opponent than Lesnar... I fail to see where the confusion comes from, it's merely a possible booking, not rocket science in the slightest.
 

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Kane wants the title too so why wouldn't he help Rollins get it to have a more formidable opponent than Lesnar... I fail to see where the confusion comes from, it's merely a possible booking, not rocket science in the slightest.
Why would Lesnar go against the Authority?
Kane wants the title too? What does that mean exactly?
The bold confuses me even further. It sounds like you'e saying Kane intends to win the WWE championship so he can face Rollins.
 

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Why would Lesnar go against the Authority?
Kane wants the title too? What does that mean exactly?
The bold confuses me even further. It sounds like you'e saying Kane intends to win the WWE championship so he can face Rollins.

He is saying that after the match between Cena and Brock.. if Brock wins and is weakened by Cena, that Kane can come out and help to beat down Brock even more so that Seth can cash in... then afterwards Kane turns on the Authority and goes after Rollins. I can see this happen as in the past month or so we've seen Kane go against the Authority in attacking Orton and arguing with Orton numerous times.. saying straight out that he wants the title even.. so I can see him helping Rollins win the title so that he can turn and go after someone he knows he is stronger than. This would most likely be a scenario only if Brock or Heyman show rebelliousness toward the Authority sometime before NoC.

But, I highly doubt that any of that is in the cards. Maybe a Kane face turn but not a title run or even being in contention for it.

That's the way I read it.. @Sharpy Sandow feel free to correct me if I deciphered it wrong.
 

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He is saying that after the match between Cena and Brock.. if Brock wins and is weakened by Cena, that Kane can come out and help to beat down Brock even more so that Seth can cash in... then afterwards Kane turns on the Authority and goes after Rollins. I can see this happen as in the past month or so we've seen Kane go against the Authority in attacking Orton and arguing with Orton numerous times.. saying straight out that he wants the title even.. so I can see him helping Rollins win the title so that he can turn and go after someone he knows he is stronger than. This would most likely be a scenario only if Brock or Heyman show rebelliousness toward the Authority sometime before NoC.

But, I highly doubt that any of that is in the cards. Maybe a Kane face turn but not a title run or even being in contention for it.

That's the way I read it.. @Sharpy Sandow feel free to correct me if I deciphered it wrong.
So if Kane weakens Lesnar and Rollins cashes in, then Kane and Rollins will face one another without reprimand?
That is a huge leap as I see no reason why Kane wouldn't be fired on the spot or why HHH wouldn't be thoroughly p*ssed at Seth Rollins.
Either way you slice Sandow's theory you are inching toward both Lesnar and Heyman turning babyface,

The entire purpose of Lesnar's current run is to eventually put over a chosen babyface superstar in the form of Reigns, Bryan or possibly Cesaro.
This sounds like an exciting foray, but HHH seems very content with staying on Lesnar's good side.
Kane taking our Lesnar for Rollin's sake wouldn't sit too well with Lesnar. Kane would have to thoroughly dismantle Lesnar.

I'm sure Kane has plenty of reason to hate Lesnar, so we'll have to wait if anything resembling Sandow's theory plays out.
 

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The bold confuses me even further. It sounds like you'e saying Kane intends to win the WWE championship so he can face Rollins.

You might want to re-read that, not even closely lol it's pretty self-explanitory because that's definitely not what that statement you put in bold says lol.. I did mean to say less formidable though so if that's the confusing part my bad.

Essentially that statement states that Kane, a man who wanted another title run a few months back before that match vs Reigns/Orton/Cena would rather face Rollins for the title than Lesnar because it's supposed to be understood that Lesnar >>>>>>>> Rollins by miles.. So to better his chances of having actually being able to come away with the title (IF THEY SO CHOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE WITH KANE BEING THE CHAMP) he would help Rollins gain the title prior to turning against Rollins/The Authority itself to have himself an easier opponent.
 

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So if Kane weakens Lesnar and Rollins cashes in, then Kane and Rollins will face one another without reprimand?
That is a huge leap as I see no reason why Kane wouldn't be fired on the spot or why HHH wouldn't be thoroughly p*ssed at Seth Rollins.
Either way you slice Sandow's theory you are inching toward both Lesnar and Heyman turning babyface,

The entire purpose of Lesnar's current run is to eventually put over a chosen babyface superstar in the form of Reigns, Bryan or possibly Cesaro.
This sounds like an exciting foray, but HHH seems very content with staying on Lesnar's good side.
Kane taking our Lesnar for Rollin's sake wouldn't sit too well with Lesnar. Kane would have to thoroughly dismantle Lesnar.

I'm sure Kane has plenty of reason to hate Lesnar, so we'll have to wait if anything resembling Sandow's theory plays out.

I think Lesnar and Heyman could turn against The Authority without turning face completely... just by warning them that NOBODY stands between Brock and his title.. NOBODY. That would let the Authority know that if he had to he would turn on them and could make them go against him first... there are so many scenarios that could play out. But, with WWE the least creative will most likely be the one we see... to me that's A. Lesnar dominates again or B. Super Cena arrives and unbelievably takes down Lesnar.
 

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You might want to re-read that, not even closely lol it's pretty self-explanitory because that's definitely not what that statement you put in bold says lol.
Essentially that statement states that Kane, a man who wanted another title run a few months back before that match vs Reigns/Orton/Cena would rather face Rollins for the title than Lesnar because it's supposed to be understood that Lesnar >>>>>>>> Rollins by miles.. So to better his chances of having actually being able to come away with the title (IF THEY SO CHOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE WITH KANE BEING THE CHAMP) he would help Rollins gain the title prior to turning against Rollins/The Authority itself to have himself an easier opponent.

So, essentially, I was correct. I feel all smart and stuff.
 

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You might want to re-read that, not even closely lol it's pretty self-explanitory because that's definitely not what that statement you put in bold says lol.. I did mean to see less formidable though so if that's the confusing part my bad.

Essentially that statement states that Kane, a man who wanted another title run a few months back before that match vs Reigns/Orton/Cena would rather face Rollins for the title than Lesnar because it's supposed to be understood that Lesnar >>>>>>>> Rollins by miles.. So to better his chances of having actually being able to come away with the title (IF THEY SO CHOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE WITH KANE BEING THE CHAMP) he would help Rollins gain the title prior to turning against Rollins/The Authority itself to have himself an easier opponent.
So if Kane helps Rollins claim the title, it is automatically assumed Rollins would give Kane a title shot?
I think Lesnar and Heyman could turn against The Authority without turning face completely... just by warning them that NOBODY stands between Brock and his title.. NOBODY. That would let the Authority know that if he had to he would turn on them and could make them go against him first... there are so many scenarios that could play out. But, with WWE the least creative will most likely be the one we see... to me that's A. Lesnar dominates again or B. Super Cena arrives and unbelievably takes down Lesnar.
It sounds like you're grasping at straws personally.
 

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The whole thing with Kane most likely won't happen but he did want to win the title a few months ago so who knows, I highly doubt the creative staff would do either one of the things to inspire a Kane turn against the authority or a Brock turn against the authority.
 

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So if Kane helps Rollins claim the title, it is automatically assumed Rollins would give Kane a title shot?
No if Kane helps Rollins claim the title, Kane would be more inclined to turn against the Authority to try and get himself a title shot than he would if Lesnar was champ assuming he has the mindset that Lesnar is obviously a more powerful opponent than Seth.
 
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Just stating possible scenarios and my opinions of them.

Trying to be a Master Debater.. but I have trouble keeping it to myself. *rim shot* (Hopefully someone gets the joke)
This is the place to toss around ideas. Just because I find holes in your theories does not make them bad, bro.
No if Kane helps Rollins claim the title, Kane would be more inclined to turn against the Authority to try and get himself a title shot than he would if Lesnar was champ assuming he has the mindset that Lesnar is obviously a more powerful opponent than Seth.
I finally see it. I still see that being a definite long shot. That would basically be putting Kane in the driver's seat of the main storyline on RAW.

It could later be revealed that Kane's anger resurfaced after Lesnar, of all people, won the belt back.
Lesnar, being the conqueror of his brother's streak, would, no doubt, sit ill with Kane.
Kane, as the corporate puppet, feels Lesnar disrespects his brother's legacy as well as WWE, as a whole, for showing up when he chooses.
The Authority sucking up to Lesnar last week may have been the straw that broke the camel's back and forced Kane to turn on the Authority.
 

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This is the place to toss around ideas. Just because I find holes in your theories does not make them bad, bro.

I finally see it. I still see that being a definite long shot. That would basically be putting Kane in the driver's seat of the main storyline on RAW.

It could later be revealed that Kane's anger resurfaced after Lesnar, of all people, won the belt back.
Lesnar, being the conqueror of his brother's streak, would, no doubt, sit ill with Kane.
Kane, as the corporate puppet, feels Lesnar disrespects his brother's legacy as well as WWE, as a whole, for showing up when he chooses.
The Authority sucking up to Lesnar last week may have been the straw that broke the camel's back and forced Kane to turn on the Authority.
Yes that's a more detailed analysis than I gave but yes that is essentially how the scenario would play out. It's a definitely longshot, but it's just one of many possibilities :) Who knows where WWE creative is going to take it from here.. A little under a year ago I thought Damien was going to get a huge push and well that completely went away.
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Yes that's a more detailed analysis than I gave but yes that is essentially how the scenario would play out. It's a definitely longshot, but it's just one of many possibilities :) Who knows where WWE creative is going to take it from here.. A little under a year ago I thought Damien was going to get a huge push and well that completely went away.
:sandow:
It appears HHH is in charge of talent. Take a look at what and whom he seems to favor and you can get a glimpse of Sandow's future.