Why aren't the mods doing their jobs?

[Italian Outsider]

I would honestly like to know how peepshow thinks he could promote ''in a proper way''.

 

[PeepShow]

Or you could offer ways of generating activing around here instead of bitching about how things are now. If you're not going to be part of the solution, what's the point of these types of threads?

Sigh

Why do I even bother?

 

[Italian Outsider]

answer me then

 

[Rell]

So, am I the only one who feels the forum is fine as is? Yes, we can use more members. Other than that, I don't really see a problem. Little things like certain threads not being pinned doesn't bother me at all. Like seriously, who cares? (fuckin Lucas...) if there's traffic in the said thread, its gonna be at the top of the page regardless. There's actually a decent amount of discussion going on at the moment.

I actually like the fact that this forum isn't strict and uptight. Relaxed rules (Y)... We're like the ECW of wrestling boards.

This is pretty much the only forum I visit regularly, aside from lakersground.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

This is a stupid, senseless thread. EVERYTIME there is a change in staff there is always a thread like this. I'm really surprised it took so long honestly. There are some things that should be said though.

1. Mods, don't flatter yourself. Activity isn't up because you guys are mods. When G1 and I were appointed last year, shit shot through the roof for awhile. Was it because of us being mods? No. This isn't an "Enzo is a bitter ex-mod" rant as some will call it, this is a "calling it how I see it" tiff. You guys were appointed because TIO thought this place needed a revamp. Kudos to him, it's the first time he's done something an admin should do. That's not a knock on TIO, he needs to do more than appear apathetic and lethargic if he is even remotely vested in the best interests of this board. Do I disagree in the way he went about it, no. I just believe he should have made his selections off of merit, credentials and activity. The only one who has all three and really deserves his spot is Luke. Luke is probably the best asset to this board right now. Sharpshooter wasn't around for 6 months and his posts are one liners and bumps of completely forgotten and useless threads. From what I gather he was a good hand in the eFed but that's deader than Amy Winehouse. MizMasta has longevity to his credit, but again wasn't around for a large chunk of time. A vast majority of his posts are one liners as well but is far more active than SS. I hope you guys don't get butt hurt, I'm not insulting you, nor trying to, I'm just stating it how it is. Outside of Luke, it appears you guys post because you're staff and you think it's expected of you. I think to be a mod, you should be more active, lead discussions and drive intelligent debate. The best thing you guys have is a non bias and I agree with your selections on that basis, but Kaedon, Ichiban, SE 76 and Rell are all better candidates and fill the requisites I feel are necessary to be a mod. Peep as well if he wasn't caught in the stigma that "the clique" nonsense has caused.

Activity is up for a few reasons, 1 being the HOT Punk angle. Look at last summer, this place was popping after the Nexxus storyline and died off after teh E had Cena ruin it. And secondly, you have the returns of some guys who are assets to this place. Ichiban came back, he is the goods, as is SE 76 and even Kaedon, despite the differences almost everyone has with him. Peep kind of kicked off the return spree and the best return is Rell. I've never encountered the guy until he came back and he's what you want a member to be, he posts everywhere, he's polite and cordial and his posts almost always have substance. Then there are some who have comeback and make absolutely worthless posts and should stay gone. There are some who are constants here and almost always are useless. There are some here that could be assets but do indeed get shat on by the "cool kids" and I can understand why TIO wants to make changes. Being a dick for the sake of being a dick is a turnoff. I can understand coming together to run off an Adam or 403 Kid, but sometimes attacking established members who aren't as stupid is silly. I almost felt sorry for Nation. I almost feel sorry for Weebo. I almost felt sorry for the XBAs and Wordlifes of the place. But I can't because I don't know why, nor really care, why some quarrel with each other. There is the ignore feature. Use it.

I'm in no way trying to set double standards nor bedevil in hypocrisy, I've partaken in useless flames (as have the admins) , but I've also stood on the sidelines and watched as someone was torn apart. I've made stupid posts, made brilliant posts (including the POTY of 2010), insulting posts, been insulted, made racists posts, looked like a fool, been owned, given props, denied props, been cocky, been humbled. Everyone here has. Some will admit it, some wont. Some will think it's cool to MS Paint someone's child with jizms on him and insinuate incest but get butt hurt about online love affairs gone awry. Some will very faggily stick up for their online homies, even if it doesn't concern them. Some will never fall into any of this nonsense. Some will always find fault in staff and pretend they have all the answers to make this place better, get humbled, and spend shameful amounts of time making sock accounts to extract their revenge. Everybody wants to just get on down the road, some easier than others and it sucks when other motherfuckers are putting potholes in it to slow them down. TIO, to his credit, is trying to contract someone to fix them potholes.

While I feel two of the three mod appointees don't fit the criteria and should be replaced with those that do, despite the few instances where they have fallen asleep at the wheel, I feel they should be given a chance. And that should be a theme around this place, give motherfuckers a chance. Even those that are coming back under sock accounts. This place is fun, and when it's active, this is my favorite place to post. I would like to keep it that way and identifying and correcting the problems while keeping those that perpetuate those problems and the victims of those problems is the right direction to go. Hopefully this isn't taken as an "Enzo is a bitter exmod acting holier than thou" or a "tl;dr" post.

 

[The Outkast Kid]

Threads like this at the top of the page dont promote new members to stay....

 

[Luke Flywalker]

LOL Enzo, that's really any forum that isn't regulated to death.

Regulated forums are fun to participate in to a degree. I personally like to use foul language, always have, and I hate censors. I believe wholeheartedly that any topic is open for discussion by anyone at anytime, but I do believe there are topics that require better thought be used by all parties, and that's generally what hurts people's feelings, is seeing that someone put absolutely no thought into making a respectable answer to contribute to the discussion (it's why I get so mad at fuzzy all the time, lol).

But the censor "free" forums are so much more fun, imo, and one-liners in any discussion can be absolute gold. I've always appreciated one-liners, and I often think I appreciate them more because I'm more the long-winded style of poster. But people here know that if we were a strict, censored forum, it would be absolute garbage to everyone here, even the oft-visiting members who right now believe it would be a change for the better.

The first forum I joined, I made an immediate impression and participated in a lot of organized debates. I've not encountered a better forum (in terms of activity and quality) since that forum. We enforced rules, but we weren't strict in warnings and zero-tolerance... we were pretty lenient. The only rules we didn't allow to be bent were the standard no-racism/flaming. There were cliques, there were partnerships and hate... but people respected the boundaries we set because the casual members adhered to them and requested as well... and everyone was warm in welcoming new members (except females, because very few females stick around on forums anyways). I was modded quickly, and quickly was promoted through ranks until the owner stopped caring about his duties to the site and showed his own bias to particular members he was friends with in real life and just gave up on the site and shut it down. I was asked quickly by one of the SuperMods over there to start a forum with him to maintain the community we had... it lasted for a while, but he too gave up on paying bills, and I was never invested enough to pay for a forum... but was asked again to help start a forum to maintain the community. Any other forum I touched, I was modded... without ever having asked, just simply (as was the case here) offering once that I had experience as mod, admin, and even co-owner... so I know how that aspect of forums works. I'm currently an admin at another forum which, through multiple ownership changes has died down exceedingly. That community despises regulation via moderators & admin, but it works for them. They flame new members in their introduction threads, and it weeds out anyone who can't commit to a month of shit-talking and earning their stripes. Oddly enough, people are typically for it, and it has created a strong community that extends way beyond the boards now.

But I also take note of how many of the members they've flamed that run off and don't come back... and it's an incredibly large number. It's difficult to think of how much simple activity they'd provide towards search engines if they weren't run off, but again, it's hard to not appreciate the strong bonds that community has endured. It's not really a case of the grass being greener on the other side... both styles of forum are successful, so long as you don't draw lines and cross them often.


As far as here... the stickied threads... they're not necessary. Yeah, sticking the PPV discussion could help, and it probably should be done... but weekly programs? They don't need to be stickied. I would like to see more news posted, and I suppose I could always do that, but I've never seen a case of one person posting all the threads work... then it just gives off the feel they're a bot and nobody wants to discuss any of the shit being posted. That would probably be the only thing I can see the mods doing that could be more "doing their jobs"...

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

People shouldn't have to take shit to earn their stripes. That's nonsense, especially if they are taking shit from people who add nothing but presence. As far as one liners, there are good one liners. I'm talking about the one thought conveyance one liners. Those add nothing.

 

[Luke Flywalker]

People shouldn't have to take shit to earn their stripes. That's nonsense, especially if they are taking shit from people who add nothing but presence. As far as one liners, there are good one liners. I'm talking about the one thought conveyance one liners. Those add nothing.

Yeah, I agree... it's horrid to think you could have run off someone who could contribute much more than you simply because you want to haze them for fun... I never participate in the shit, but if you ban the ones who do it (which sadly was everyone there), you lose 'em all and any traffic you brought because of them, you lose... they were established at another incredibly successful forum (they had hundreds of thousands of members and threads everyday) which rivaled the one I was on for the longest, so when our sites died out, we merged with this new one... the hardcore visitors, that is.

My point is though, someone at some level of every forum will always complain about anything, and they're usually the same people who complain about the style they wanted when they get it, wanting the old style back. Not suggesting that's the case with everyone, especially not here in this discussion, but it's typically how it works.

 

[seX-Power]

If people want serious wrestling discussions with strict rules then they'll go to one of the bigger forums with more members and more posting and that won't change. There needs to be a place for people to post seriously about wrestling without having to worry about offending people or doing stupid shit like having to post reasons and write an essay for every single post. Competing directly with the larger forums isn't going to get activity up so we may as well stay as the 'more relaxed, edgy' alternative.

I agree with Rell. It's fine the way it is.

Also, agreed with Enzo about Luke being the only worthy mod. I've never seen anything from Sharpshooter to warrant me remembering who he is and we dont need MizMasta, Nino's already our token black guy staff member.

 

[Sharpshooter 221]

^ Agreed.

Says the dude who's been here since 2008 (Maybe before?) and has over three thousand posts but lost a mod spot to a dude who's been here since 2010 and has just over a thousand posts.

 

[Italian Outsider]

Jhon was never a mod here.

 

[Italian Outsider]

And btw, out of the various reasons, there is one in particular that made me change the staff: the kliq power had to be demolished, or at least look so.
It's one thing when a newbye comes here, and gets flamed by members who are all mods or legends, meaning he has nobody he can direct his complaints to, and it's another thing being flamed by what appear to be random members and there are mods you can complain to.

if the new mods won't satisfy me, I'll find someone else. I never said they are forever.

 

[KenFan4life]

So, am I the only one who feels the forum is fine as is?
I actually like the fact that this forum isn't strict and uptight. Relaxed rules (Y)... We're like the ECW of wrestling boards.
This is pretty much the only forum I visit regularly, aside from lakersground.

Other forums = Lord of the rings sized paragraph posts.
This Forum = that porn-o mag with funny cartoons.
Just sayin', we kick it casual, others be all uptight nazi g-lords, ya' heaRd?!

 

[seX-Power]

who were the old mods again?