Why all the hate towards Triple H?

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Crayo said:
Okay, Randy Savage is now the official CM Punk mark of this forum. You've lost your touch.

BTW, LOL. HHH is the future of the WWE? Unless you mean off-screen you can seriously stop taking those pills son. Rock was the draw for Survivor Series, not Miz. The poor numbers were on Rock. People don't think "OMG ROCK IS THERE? BUT DAMN HE'S FACING MIZ I WON'T BUY". I can't stand ignorant posts.

The blame was on Miz therefore it is Miz, you are not part of the WWE so you cannot come here and say what's really right about your poor little buried talent. What's ignorant is that you think that you're always right when you're actually not.

HHH will make the company much better than it already is on the day he takes over.
 

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Seriously people expected Miz to be the draw in a match with The Rock and John Cena? Why doesn't Miz get the credit for Wrestlemania 28's buyrate then? Also was the blame ever put on Miz beyond a dirt sheet rumour?
 

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Kill Steen Kill said:
Seriously people expected Miz to be the draw in a match with The Rock and John Cena? Why doesn't Miz get the credit for Wrestlemania 28's buyrate then? Also was the blame ever put on Miz beyond a dirt sheet rumour?

I'd trust the words of PWInsider and other reliable dirt sheets than believe in all of this "Miz was not the guy to blame" crap, yes. Why should he get credit? Only ones who should get credit for WM 28 Buyrates are Cena and The Rock, it is pretty much self-explanatory and if not I can explain it for you.

I ask you this question, why did they choose Miz and not R-Truth? Why Miz out of everyone?
 

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Because the dirt sheets love to bitch, how about WM 27? Miz is such a huge expected draw right, why does all credit go to Rock and Cena according to these reports which you love so dearly Miz is the draw, right? If you re-read the reports he's being blamed and put on an apparent losing streak because of the bad buy rate, yet he was hardly winning many matches before was he? The only people to blame for the low buy rate are Rock, Cena and possibly Punk as the babyface going after the WWE title anything else is just idiotic reporting from the dirtsheets who put his losing streak together with a lower than expected buy rate together, no insider knowledge.
 

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Ziggles said:
The blame was on Miz therefore it is Miz, you are not part of the WWE so you cannot come here and say what's really right about your poor little buried talent. What's ignorant is that you think that you're always right when you're actually not.

HHH will make the company much better than it already is on the day he takes over.

Oh sorry, so me saying it wasn't Miz' fault and no one blamed him means I think I'm part of the WWE, but you saying it was ALL Miz' fault is okay? Miz was a draw as champion and regularly drew around 100k-500k (and a couple 800k+'s with Cena), that doesn't count?

Ziggles said:
I'd trust the words of PWInsider and other reliable dirt sheets than believe in all of this "Miz was not the guy to blame" crap, yes. Why should he get credit? Only ones who should get credit for WM 28 Buyrates are Cena and The Rock, it is pretty much self-explanatory and if not I can explain it for you.

I ask you this question, why did they choose Miz and not R-Truth? Why Miz out of everyone?

Lmao

WM 28 with Miz in the main-event = CENA AND ROCK DREW THAT'S WHY

Survivor Series with Rocks first match in 7 years pairing with biggest star in WWE = LOL DIDNT GET MANY BUYS CUZ MIZ WAS IN MATCH, NOTHING TO DO WITH R-TRUTH OR SHITTY BOOKING NO, ALL MIZ.

JeebaK knows more than you.
 

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The final biggest point is heels aren't expected to draw, face are heels are the guys who work with the guys who drew. Blaming Miz for this is like saying 90,000+ came in to see Andre, when they came to see Hulk beat him.
 

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Crayo said:
JeebaK knows more than you.

My feud with AssMode is well documented, but this is just downright rude.
 

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Ziggles said:
If he really was that obsessed with the spotlight, and if he's "ego" is that big then he would have definitely killed Taker's streak, which you all predicted that he would do when they were calling each other out on RAW the first time this year.

Because the only wrestler with more pull in the WWE than Triple H is the Undertaker. Something that might (But I cannot be sure) Pisses H of.

:taker: - U mad bro?

:bury: - So mad
 

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Stopspot said:
Because the only wrestler with more pull in the WWE than Triple H is the Undertaker. Something that might (But I cannot be sure) Pisses H of.

:taker: - U mad bro?

:bury: - So mad

Lol'd quite hard.

To be fair to HHH I don't think (even with his ego) he'd want the streak to end because of him, though it's most probably because everyone would fucking hate him even more if he did end it.

I heard Undertaker has complete creative control over his streak. Dropping it to HHH and HBK of all people probably didn't appeal to him, but he's not like HHH when it comes to not wanting to lose, since Taker has offered his streak to numerous people, Orton being one of them (who rejected it).
 

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Hunter seems like an okay guy who was willing 2 help Trish when she needed help working matches. I don't believe he's a guy u want over 4 dinner all the time, but he isn't the devil some make him out 2 b. Hunter has an ego but he loves WWE and is willing 2 make the right decision when pressured 2 do so
 

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KiaSport said:
Hunter seems like an okay guy who was willing 2 help Trish when she needed help working matches. I don't believe he's a guy u want over 4 dinner all the time, but he isn't the devil some make him out 2 b. Hunter has an ego but he loves WWE and is willing 2 make the right decision when pressured 2 do so

Or the wrong one.
 

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The final biggest point is heels aren't expected to draw, face are heels are the guys who work with the guys who drew. Blaming Miz for this is like saying 90,000+ came in to see Andre, when they came to see Hulk beat him.

Just to nitpick for the sake of an argument, heels are still supposed to be expected to draw. I'd say it's 50/50 or at least close to it. If you just put a face that everyone loves against a guy no one cares about, it won't draw as good as putting him against a heel who everyone would love to see get beat. And vice versa. Hogan and Andre was a big deal because it wasn't just a beloved baby face against a heel, it was a beloved baby face against a guy who was perceived as a monster and who everyone thought was undefeated for the past 15 years or so (though he wasn't) and who Hogan might not be able to beat.
 

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How anyone can say it was Miz's fault baffles me. The whole night was built around Rock returning to the ring and Cena teaming with him. If it draws poorly, you either blame your 2 biggest draws or a crappy product. I'd say the latter.
 

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KevinLockard23 said:
Just to nitpick for the sake of an argument, heels are still supposed to be expected to draw. I'd say it's 50/50 or at least close to it. If you just put a face that everyone loves against a guy no one cares about, it won't draw as good as putting him against a heel who everyone would love to see get beat. And vice versa. Hogan and Andre was a big deal because it wasn't just a beloved baby face against a heel, it was a beloved baby face against a guy who was perceived as a monster and who everyone thought was undefeated for the past 15 years or so (though he wasn't) and who Hogan might not be able to beat.

But the heel isn't the one who supposed to draw, take for example if you had a heel Andre going against a face Rick Martel. You wouldn't expect that to draw and when it didn't blame Andre would you? No take a heel Martel vs an his prime Hogan and that didn't draw the blame would be on Hulk. Am I saying that heels can't add something towards the drawing of a card ? No. Am I saying that aren't responsible to be the draws on the majority of occasions yes.