US Patriot Act In FULL EFFECT!

[Senhor Perfect]

Canada, the real land of the free and home of the brave :smug:

 

[seabs]

I know people like you Dolph's, you are a basic manipulator. No mater what is said or done, you find the flaw to make yourself look better & more intelligent. Its not about me thinking, saying or doing anything... It comes down to you being able to find flaws in anything I present you.

He's not a manipulator lol, he's just passionate about his views.

 

[Jonathan]

I know people like you Dolph's, you are a basic manipulator. No mater what is said or done, you find the flaw to make yourself look better & more intelligent. Its not about me thinking, saying or doing anything... It comes down to you being able to find flaws in anything I present you.

And that's good, because it gets down to the nitty gritty facts, and removes the bias from both sides.

You're basically saying here that you added bias to your points and didn't provide pure facts.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I know people like you Dolph's, you are a basic manipulator. No mater what is said or done, you find the flaw to make yourself look better & more intelligent. Its not about me thinking, saying or doing anything... It comes down to you being able to find flaws in anything I present you.

While I'm flattered, I'm not manipulating anything. The fact is your reasoning is filled with logical fallacies and when I point them out to you, you try to change what you were saying. Believe it or not I'm not 'out to get you' and I don't even dislike you. This isn't about anything but the topic at hand, sorry girl.

 

[catlady]

You think they need to stick together, but then you won't act on that and try to get people to stick together because you think it's pointless because the country is divided.

I think that's Dolph's point. Could be wrong.

When did I say it was a pointless effort? When did I say I was doing absolutely nothing?
I know this may be hard to believe but 90% of what happens in my life or what I do with my life doesn't get said online.
...Looking back at the OP, you could understand why.

 

[Jonathan]

When did I say it was a pointless effort? When did I say I was doing absolutely nothing?
I know this may be hard to believe but 90% of what happens in my life or what I do with my life doesn't get said online.
...Looking back at the OP, you could understand why.

"One person can't make effective change anymore."

Basically admitting that it's a pointless effort.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

When did I say it was a pointless effort? When did I say I was doing absolutely nothing?

One person can't make effective change anymore. Everyone is so divided and only care about their own personal gain. Everyone is so self centered that if something can be costing millions their jobs, their homes, ect. and it it isn't directly effecting them they simply don't give a shit... But when it happens to them they want a pity party thrown on every street corner for them. Hope and change has become divide and conquer.

You certainly made it sound like you plan to do nothing and that you thought it was a pointless effort.

 

[catlady]

To make it bearable for everyone reading this thread, I'd like to point out the obvious...
I am horrible at argumenting my points. Even when I know what I just read or just said, I can't rephrase it how it should be.
Only people that personally know me can understand me. I would make a HORRIBLE leader in anything or any situation.

I'd also like to point out that, yes, I do see what some of you guys are saying & understand it completely. Its just hard for you to understand me.

 

[catlady]

"One person can't make effective change anymore."

Basically admitting that it's a pointless effort.

Saying a single person can't do something alone is a pointless effort? There are a lot of things that can't be done unless you have more than one person.

 

[Jonathan]

Saying a single person can't do something alone is a pointless effort? There are a lot of things that can't be done unless you have more than one person.

Yeah but if one person is like "cba", and everyone follows them, then nothing would get done.

Someone has to start it.

 

[catlady]

Yeah but if one person is like "cba", and everyone follows them, then nothing would get done.

Someone has to start it.

I agree with you, but as stated above, I can't lead crap! lol I am sure you are overwhelmingly aware of this FACT. I can light a fire, sure, but I can't keep it going.

Prime forums example : IWT ity:

 

[Crayo]

Wish Jonathan would fuck off out this thread. He makes everything so much worse.

 

[seabs]

How does any ankle lock cause so much debate.

 

[catlady]

Any tome I make a thread like this it ends in me getting backed into a corner. I should have learned by now.. :haha:

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Any tome I make a thread like this it ends in me getting backed into a corner. I should have learned by now.. :haha:

Victim card? Your better than that