US Patriot Act In FULL EFFECT!

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Can you begin to understand why it concerns millions and millions of other people though?

'begin' to understand, no. I've understood all along. People are paranoid and are concerned with the slippery slope this can lead to. They think if we just roll over and give the government this inch willingly they will take a mile.

While that may be true, I'm still not going to spend my time getting worked up about it. There are good people out there like Rand Paul to get worked up for me.

 

[Crayo]

GOAT Rand.

Anyway, that's not their only concern, but it's a damn good one to have. I'm happy for you that you don't let this stuff bother you, but I'm with the majority unfortunately where this does bother me. We don't have a Rand to rely on here in the UK, or in Europe.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

GOAT Rand.

Anyway, that's not their only concern, but it's a damn good one to have. I'm happy for you that you don't let this stuff bother you, but I'm with the majority unfortunately where this does bother me. We don't have a Rand to rely on here in the UK, or in Europe.

I wouldn't say the majority are bothered by it. More like a vocal minority are truly outraged by it. I would say for most it ranges from indifference to mild irritation ala :shaking my angry fist at the white house grrrrrr::

 

[Crayo]

I wouldn't say the majority are bothered by it. More like a vocal minority are truly outraged by it. I would say for most it ranges from indifference to mild irritation ala :shaking my angry fist at the white house grrrrrr::

I dunno, we'll see. This reminds me a lot of SOPA and PIPA, and both were abolished immediately when everyone kicked up fuss. There was a lot of fuss. The government are trying their best to get SOME control over the only remaining free frequency (internet), and there is a lot of people saying no, gtfo. The minority and majority debate is impossible to debate, because there will be lots who genuinely don't understand this, and more who simply don't use the internet enough to care. If you're including people who strictly use the internet a lot in their day-to-day lives, then I would bet my car on the majority of them caring.

Now we can debate whether caring is caring if you're not out there protesting, in this example it is.

 

[seabs]

That sounds like our country with everything, I swear down our political answer to anything is a strongly written letter to a local mp.

 

[Crayo]

That sounds like our country with everything, I swear down our political answer to anything is a strongly written letter to a local mp.

Sums up the British nicely. The government could do so much more with us, and it'll still just be us complaining about it while watching the soaps. We've always had that complaining culture, but not a revolutionary one. Speak for yourselves though, I'm Spanish. Fuck Britain .

 

[seabs]

Sums up the British nicely. The government could do so much more with us, and it'll still just be us complaining about it while watching the soaps. We've always had that complaining culture, but not a revolutionary one. Speak for yourselves though, I'm Spanish. Fuck Britain .

I wish you'd take Cornwall with you, also had a pasty earlier my mum bought from a market. I was as happy as Walter Jr in a pigeon coop.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I dunno, we'll see. This reminds me a lot of SOPA and PIPA, and both were abolished immediately when everyone kicked up fuss. There was a lot of fuss. The government are trying their best to get SOME control over the only remaining free frequency (internet), and there is a lot of people saying no, gtfo. The minority and majority debate is impossible to debate, because there will be lots who genuinely don't understand this, and more who simply don't use the internet enough to care. If you're including people who strictly use the internet a lot in their day-to-day lives, then I would bet my car on the majority of them caring.

Now we can debate whether caring is caring if you're not out there protesting, in this example it is.

If 'caring' is signing a Rand Paul petition, then sure, even I care. I think this will probably go down the same path as SOPA and get squashed sooner rather than later. I agree though that the government feels a sense of powerlessness that they can't stand when it comes to the Internet. I can't blame them for feeling that way. It really is the modern day wild west in their eyes, and hell, even in the public's eyes. Any time they attempt to monitor or restrict freedoms on the Internet there is massive outcry.

It will be interesting to see where it all winds up, but anyone thinking the government won't eventually have the Internet somewhat-regulated to their liking is fooling themselves.

 

[Crayo]

I wish you'd take Cornwall with you, also had a pasty earlier my mum bought from a market. I was as happy as Walter Jr in a pigeon coop.

I hope it was a proper pasty. Was it nice? Tell me about it! Fucking love pasties.

If 'caring' is signing a Rand Paul petition, then sure, even I care. I think this will probably go down the same path as SOPA and get squashed sooner rather than later. I agree though that the government feels a sense of powerlessness that they can't stand when it comes to the Internet. I can't blame them for feeling that way. It really is the modern day wild west in their eyes, and hell, even in the public's eyes. Any time they attempt to monitor or restrict freedoms on the Internet there is massive outcry.

It will be interesting to see where it all winds up, but anyone thinking the government won't eventually have the Internet somewhat-regulated to their liking is fooling themselves.

Whilst I get the internet is threatening to them in some sort, they hold it in way too high regard. "Internet criminals" who in reality committed minor fraud and small DDOS attacks putting businesses' websites offline for a mere 10 minutes are getting prison time similar to rapists, and sometimes more. They're paranoid that some revolution lead by some group like Anonymous could genuinely influence policies in the west, mainly because they actually have influenced some government changes in the east.

I do think it'll be much harder for them to control the internet though, as there is always a way. I think piracy is the greatest example of why the internet is always winning at teh moment. "Oh no, you blocked piratebay Mr. ISP? Oh, wait, pirateproxy.net, I can access piratebay from that mirror. Nevermind". They just need to modernise their beliefs when it comes to the internet; Spotify and iTunes are a great example of that. Don't fight the inevitable; just give them better solutions. Why pirate a series when it's all on Netflix for a mere £5 a month?

God this has gone off-topic now.

 

[Danielson]

I hope it was a proper pasty. Was it nice? Tell me about it! Fucking love pasties.




Whilst I get the internet is threatening to them in some sort, they hold it in way too high regard. "Internet criminals" who in reality committed minor fraud and small DDOS attacks putting businesses' websites offline for a mere 10 minutes are getting prison time similar to rapists, and sometimes more. They're paranoid that some revolution lead by some group like Anonymous could genuinely influence policies in the west, mainly because they actually have influenced some government changes in the east.

I do think it'll be much harder for them to control the internet though, as there is always a way. I think piracy is the greatest example of why the internet is always winning at teh moment. "Oh no, you blocked piratebay Mr. ISP? Oh, wait, pirateproxy.net, I can access piratebay from that mirror. Nevermind". They just need to modernise their beliefs when it comes to the internet; Spotify and iTunes are a great example of that. Don't fight the inevitable; just give them better solutions. Why pirate a series when it's all on Netflix for a mere £5 a month?

God this has gone off-topic now.

True story, the guy that brought to light the stubenville rape case is getting more time than the actual rapists. There is a website available to donate to get him a good attorney or something.

 

[Danielson]

I know I should be concerned about this NSA phone tapping thing, but it’s just so nice to know that someone’s been listening to me.

 

[Lady Deathbane]

Phone sex with the government, mmm.

 

[Lady Deathbane]

What are you wearing, Obama? :ksi:

 

[Farooq]

I wouldn't care i the government were listening to my phone calls. It's not like I have anything to hide, or doing anything illegally. Sure you can know about my fetishes, my phone sex, my name, where I live(as if you don't already know), and other shit. Just don't give me a 4/10 rating :sad:

 

[Danielson]

If anybody at the NSA has advice on dealing with my Mom after listening to her calls, I'd apperciate it. Give me a call. You know the number.