US Patriot Act In FULL EFFECT!

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seabs

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nah i like him, i think you're a bigger douche than jonathan....im probably a bigger one than both of you, who the fuck cares?
You're the guy who no one gives a fuck about so you act up to for the attention, congrats Aids you're a 13 year old girl.
 

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I just think it's weird that the "Media" uncovered this and from what i've seen from a poster in here, they think the media force feeds them b.s. I'm wondering when it's convenient to listen to the media, and when it's not.
 

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Is it bad that I agree with Barry Obams that this is, at worst, a modest invasion of privacy? It's not like they are tapping phone wires or have any idea what is being discussed in the phone calls. They just have logs of who called who. It doesn't really bother me in the slightest to know that if I make an outgoing call that Uncle Sam may catch wind of it.
 

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IMO that is bad. It's the wrong attitude. They have logs of who called who, where you were when they called you, where you were when you received a call, how long you were on the phone for - it's data logging, not content stealing, but it's still bad. They do not need this kind of information and it opens another world of problems. There are three steps factors information they want, and only the first one is okay - IP related stuff. That helps them a lot. This kind of data doesn't help them so much that it warrants it; they already have lots of data logging already allowed, they do not need more.

It is quite frankly a wrong invasion of privacy. They can access these logs easily by simply requesting the ISP providers to provide the information they need, formally. Having this kind of power by default is just wrong when there is a much more private route which is just as easy.
 

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IMO that is bad. It's the wrong attitude. They have logs of who called who, where you were when they called you, where you were when you received a call, how long you were on the phone for - it's data logging, not content stealing, but it's still bad.

OH GOD MY KNEES ARE SHAKING NOW!
 

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OH GOD MY KNEES ARE SHAKING NOW!

Could you not just continue this debate intellectually without the outdated sarcasm featuring the veteran that is Mr. Caps Lock?

You don't get it unfortunately. The spook that allegedly tapped into Facebook's data (and the other huge internet companies) gives the NSA access to, email, chat logs, any stored data, voice traffic, file transfers and social networking data. You don't think that's an invasion of privacy? One newspaper claimed the NSA can actually conduct live surveillance of someone doing a Google search.
 

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Could you not just continue this debate intellectually without the outdated sarcasm featuring the veteran that is Mr. Caps Lock?

You don't get it unfortunately. The spook that allegedly tapped into Facebook's data (and the other huge internet companies) gives the NSA access to, email, chat logs, any stored data, voice traffic, file transfers and social networking data. You don't think that's an invasion of privacy? One newspaper claimed the NSA can actually conduct live surveillance of someone doing a Google search.


I get it. It just doesn't concern me.