Top 5 Shoot Interviewees

[Action Jackson]

He did put him over huge all through the feud, Hardy did better work than Punk if we're being honest especially in the matches however how does that relate to Punk blowing up in 2011 after being jobbed out on Ppv for practically the two years after? Don't quote me on this but I think he lost every PPV between Summerslam 09 and OTL 2011. Jeff put him on the map then the WWE snatched the map off the table. A similar thing happened to Bryan albeit lesser with the US title, Mid put him over like a million bucks then Bryan faded to dancing on RAW then nothing. Muz isn't responsible for Bryan being so over now is he?

No, but you have to be thankful for the people who took a chance on you along the way to success. It's important to acknowledge their role in creating the persona that Punk has developed today.

 

[seabs]

Yeah pretty much this. Hardy and Taker put him on the map. I found it kind of disingenuous how Punk shits on that title reign of his in the BITW dvd he did. He seems like a raging egomaniac. All the spotlight in the company isn't on him, so he feels that world title run is bullshit. The dude's talented and all yeah, but I think he's a victim of his own hype at times.

Anyway yeah, his 2011 worked shoot promo deal where he pretended to break the fourth wall would never have happened without Hardy or Taker working with him in '09.

Being an egotistical prick is something he's guilty of.

How doesn't it happen without them working with him? What did he use from that feud to form the story? It was about him being pushed down for Cena as he didn't fit the mould the company wanted wasn't it? Surely that'd work better if he hadn't been in such a huge feud.

 

[seabs]

No, but you have to be thankful for the people who took a chance on you along the way to success. It's important to acknowledge their role in creating the persona that Punk has developed today.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I guess I don't see the correlation, did anyone really remember that shit when he cut a worked shoot and walked out with the title?

Did you not read what I said? He wouldn't have had the chance to ever do the worked shoot if he weren't so over from the Hardy feud. Hardy jump started his WWE career in a big way.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Being an egotistical prick is something he's guilty of.

How doesn't it happen without them working with him? What did he use from that feud to form the story? It was about him being pushed down for Cena as he didn't fit the mould the company wanted wasn't it? Surely that'd work better if he hadn't been in such a huge feud.

No? Because he wouldn't have been so over/popular and thus not deserving of being pushed, thus not being 'pushed down'.

 

[Action Jackson]

Being an egotistical prick is something he's guilty of.

How doesn't it happen without them working with him? What did he use from that feud to form the story? It was about him being pushed down for Cena as he didn't fit the mould the company wanted wasn't it? Surely that'd work better if he hadn't been in such a huge feud.

I'm not saying the words he said or the promo he cut had anything to do with his 2009 shit. What I'm saying is that he would not be in the position for that if he hadn't had the previous run, and even the big losing streak and all after that. It all contributed to the character changes he rolled out in that promo.

He tries to keep up the image that it's a shoot, but he's kayfabin'. I read an interview with Triple H not even a month or two ago on Grantland I believe where he said that Punk's pipebomb promo was a work. Well the way he said it was, to paraphrase, that there's no way it would have aired if he was seriously going off script and saying all that ignorant shit about everyone in management. They would have cut his mic long before that.

 

[Action Jackson]

Being an egotistical prick is something he's guilty of.

How doesn't it happen without them working with him? What did he use from that feud to form the story? It was about him being pushed down for Cena as he didn't fit the mould the company wanted wasn't it? Surely that'd work better if he hadn't been in such a huge feud.

I'm not saying the words he said or the promo he cut had anything to do with his 2009 shit. What I'm saying is that he would not be in the position for that if he hadn't had the previous run, and even the big losing streak and all after that. It all contributed to the character changes he rolled out in that promo.

He tries to keep up the image that it's a shoot, but he's kayfabin'. I read an interview with Triple H not even a month or two ago on Grantland I believe where he said that Punk's pipebomb promo was a work. Well the way he said it was, to paraphrase, that there's no way it would have aired if he was seriously going off script and saying all that ignorant shit about everyone in management. They would have cut his mic long before that.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

He did put him over huge all through the feud, Hardy did better work than Punk if we're being honest especially in the matches however how does that relate to Punk blowing up in 2011 after being jobbed out on Ppv for practically the two years after? Don't quote me on this but I think he lost every PPV between Summerslam 09 and OTL 2011. Jeff put him on the map then the WWE snatched the map off the table. A similar thing happened to Bryan albeit lesser with the US title, Mid put him over like a million bucks then Bryan faded to dancing on RAW then nothing. Muz isn't responsible for Bryan being so over now is he?

You are comparing Miz/Bryan feud to Punk/Hardy? Punk Hardy is regarded as FOTY in 2009 and a top feud of the past few years. Stop it

 

[Laura]

People trying to pin Punk's popularity on Jeff Hardy is the epitome of Punk-hater delusions. Jeff put Punk on the map, sure, but EVERY popular wrestler in history had some feud that kick started their popularity. Stone Cold got over because of Bret Hart, The Rock got over because of Stone Cold, etc. How else are you going to become popular if you never have a great feud? The fact remains that Punk is a talented performer who earned and deserves his popularity.

As for shoot interviews, I've only seen a few. Kevin Nash was funny.

 

[Action Jackson]

People trying to pin Punk's popularity on Jeff Hardy is the epitome of Punk-hater delusions. Jeff put Punk on the map, sure, but EVERY popular wrestler in history had some feud that kick started their popularity. Stone Cold got over because of Bret Hart, The Rock got over because of Stone Cold, etc. How else are you going to become popular if you never have a great feud? The fact remains that Punk is a talented performer who earned and deserves his popularity.

As for shoot interviews, I've only seen a few. Kevin Nash was funny.

First thing's first, I'm far from a hater. That's a terribly low brow term too, it's incredibly subjective. It seems nowadays anyone who criticizes something can be labeled a hater and have their opinion summarily disregarded. It's a shit word, and you're clearly more intelligent than that.

Now on Punk, I've agreed that Punk is talented, and I don't disagree that he's earned it or that he deserves it. I'm simply discussing the road he went on to get there, and how I feel at times he portrays himself as being ungrateful for some of those that helped him get there. We all know that Stone Cold hit his peak due to Bret. If you agree that Hardy put Punk on the map in your second sentence, I'm not sure how you rip it apart for the dreaded crime of "Punk-haterism" in your first sentence.

 

[seabs]

You are comparing Miz/Bryan feud to Punk/Hardy? Punk Hardy is regarded as FOTY in 2009 and a top feud of the past few years. Stop it

Albeit lesser the principle remains, Hardy put Punk over then nothing for two years same with Bryan and Miz you can't pin anything that happened two years ago as a turning point especially when there was a burial in between the two.

 

[Danielson]

People trying to pin Punk's popularity on Jeff Hardy is the epitome of Punk-hater delusions. Jeff put Punk on the map, sure, but EVERY popular wrestler in history had some feud that kick started their popularity. Stone Cold got over because of Bret Hart, The Rock got over because of Stone Cold, etc. How else are you going to become popular if you never have a great feud? The fact remains that Punk is a talented performer who earned and deserves his popularity.

As for shoot interviews, I've only seen a few. Kevin Nash was funny.

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[Action Jackson]

When do you consider the turning point in Bryan's career to be. Are you negating his run as tag champs with Kane?

 

[Laura]

First thing's first, I'm far from a hater. That's a terribly low brow term too, it's incredibly subjective. It seems nowadays anyone who criticizes something can be labeled a hater and have their opinion summarily disregarded. It's a shit word, and you're clearly more intelligent than that.

Now on Punk, I've agreed that Punk is talented, and I don't disagree that he's earned it or that he deserves it. I'm simply discussing the road he went on to get there, and how I feel at times he portrays himself as being ungrateful for some of those that helped him get there. We all know that Stone Cold hit his peak due to Bret. If you agree that Hardy put Punk on the map in your second sentence, I'm not sure how you rip it apart for the dreaded crime of "Punk-haterism" in your first sentence.

I didn't mean you specifically, and I use the term hater loosely. I just get annoyed when people try and discredit Punk's popularity by attributing it to someone else. It hints at 'haterism' because, as I said, everybody ultimately owes their popularity to someone else, it's not a condition special to Punk. But it seems we basically agree, it's just me who's a fan and you who isn't so much.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I didn't mean you specifically, and I use the term hater loosely. I just get annoyed when people try and discredit Punk's popularity by attributing it to someone else. It hints at 'haterism' because, as I said, everybody ultimately owes their popularity to someone else, it's not a condition special to Punk. But it seems we basically agree, it's just me who's a fan and you who isn't so much.

punk blows. back in your cage, mark.