Thoughts about Saudi's first women's match?

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This match didn't need to be a 10 minute war. Don't book stuff that is not required.
 

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Hope they are getting their moneys worth in Saudi because I think there are a lot of people in the US and other countries that are disappointed in their decision to have a show over there.
 

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I can argue that more men over there view them as property than other places in the world but yes, not all of them. That is a generalizing statement that doesn't hold up well. I am just frustrated with people treating others like crap in the name of religion. You can believe in something and not be an asshole to other people.
I agree with generalizing if the majority of the generalization is a fact. It’s common sense in my opinion. If the majority of women there are treated as a slave or property, well, I’m going to generalize and say that’s the case in that country, region, whatever.

I don’t know if women slavery is the case in Saudi Arabia everywhere for sure, more or less just saying that based off your statement of generalizing, I agree with generalizing if it is majority honed in facts. We do it all the time in everyday life and it makes sense to do this if your assumptions or generalizations are majority factual.

For example, I may generally say “target is a nicer place to go shopping than wal Mart.” While that may be a little subjective, people and critics alike do feel that target is a better store to shop at. However, does it literally mean that every target is better than every wal mart, everywhere? Well, no, there may be a wal Mart in some town somewhere that’s better than the target. But that doesn’t mean I’m not going to start saying “target is usually better than wal mart.” I’m still going to keep saying “target is better than wal mart.” Because 90% of the time, that’s true.

Didn’t mean to go a tangent, but the point is that if something is generally true, I don’t feel it’s wrong to say it like is (example: target is better than wal mart). If Saudi Arabia mainly treats women like property; well, their a nation that treats women like property. Doesn’t of course literally mean every single person does, but that nation as a whole.
 
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I agree with generalizing if the majority of the generalization is a fact. It’s common sense in my opinion. If the majority of women there are treated as a slave of property, well, I’m going to generalize and say that’s the case in that country, region, whatever.

I don’t know if that is the case in Saudi Arabia for sure, more or less just saying that based off your statement of generalizing, I agree with generalizing if someone is majority honed in facts. We do it all the tIke and it makes sense to do this as your assumptions or generalizations are most likely true if it’s mostly a fact.

For example, I may generally say “target is a nicer place to go shopping than wal Mart.” While that may be a little subjective, people and critics alike do feel that target is a better store to shop at. However, does it literally mean that every target is better than every wal mart, everywhere? Well, no, there may be a wal Mart in some town somewhere that’s better than the target. But that doesn’t mean I’m not going to start saying “target is usually better than wal mart.” I’m still going to keep saying “target is better than wal mart.” Because 90% of the time, that’s true.

Didn’t mean to go a tangent, but the point is that if something is held by the majority of a generalization as true, I don’t feel it’s wro NV to say it like is. If Saudi Arabia mainly treats women like property; well, their a nation that treats women like property. Doesn’t of course literally mean every single person does, but that nation as a whole.

I guess we can say the laws treat the men's wives like property, maybe that would be more accurate?
 
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I guess we can say the laws treat the men's wives like property, maybe that would be more accurate?
yeah, but are these laws throughout all of saudi arabia? If so, I think it would be fair to say saudi arabia treats women like slaves....only because how don't they as they approve these laws?
 

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As much as i hate to say it there is no denying it is a huge thing for Saudi and WWE, its a step forward in a big way, and as much as i know im gonna hate WWE ramming it into our heads about how they had the first womens match in saudi arabia and how they are at the forefront of change every single week...during natalya and laceys entrances, you can see some little girls in the audience...and they look so happy and overjoyed, and then you start to realise what this actually means for them.

So, i cant really hate this match, like it or not it undeniably has had a positive impact for the women of saudi arabia, and they didnt do anything wrong, and them being given this moment and this step forward is something good.
 

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