WrestleMania The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar - Discussion Thread
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There shouldn't be a special referee for this match imo. If they add a special ref for any match, then adding one to either the Bryan/HHH match or the triple threat championship match would make the most sense, but I don't really see either of those matches as needing one either. There's already more than enough drama in the whole Daniel Bryan/Triple H/WWE Championship saga as it is without needing to add anything extra to it.
If they did add a guest ref, I'd definitely expect it to be Austin. He's been the special guest official on a number of occasions in the past (three of those times being at Wrestlemania) and he's stated on his podcast recently that he wants to be apart of Wrestlemania XXX (although he's also stated before that he's sick of doing the whole guest referee gig...though nothing says he can't change his mind.)
If they did add a guest ref, I'd definitely expect it to be Austin. He's been the special guest official on a number of occasions in the past (three of those times being at Wrestlemania) and he's stated on his podcast recently that he wants to be apart of Wrestlemania XXX (although he's also stated before that he's sick of doing the whole guest referee gig...though nothing says he can't change his mind.)
I honestly believe you'd have to kill Undertaker to win a match at WM against that man I mean...really the guy kicked out after getting hit with a sledgehammer and still popped up like a zombie and fought the Game. Lesnar might as well turn around and go home. But I think he'll realize that half way through his flight or drive to the building. "Uhh, you know what I'm getting kinda of emotional again, you saw what happened in the last WM. Turn the fucking van around!" :haha:
It would be so disappointing to have it end like that. I personally feel like a legend like The Rock should be the one to end it, I mean it just makes sense the streak started in 91 against Jimmy when Taker, Rock, Austin, Shawn, and HHH all started getting bigger and better. Plus I don't recall seeing Rock and Taker at WM against each other. One thing I think about though, is how Lesnar can lift up Taker once he gets the hell gate locked in cuz i know its gonna happen. Brock may complain and never talk for himself, but you can't ignore the fact that he is a good wrestler.
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Dude, The Rock ending the streak would be a complete and total waste. I wouldn't even care to see a match between the two at this point (although there'd be a logical story behind it at least, but I won't get into it here), and giving the streak to a guy who isn't even as active of a wrestler as Brock Lesnar - let alone a full time roster member - is just pissing away the last twenty-three years for nothing.
I've really gone back and forth on this one. I don't think it's worthwhile to have the Rock end the Streak. In fact, I think it would be a huge mistake. If they end it (and I have little doubt that he will go out putting somebody over at Mania), it needs to mean something.
The problem is (and I've said this other places) it has to be ended by somebody who's already a known force in the company, but it shouldn't go to a guy who's already a completely "made man". That's my thought. However, all the guys who are known forces in 2014 (or will be in 2015, most likely) are already completely "made men".
I have a feeling (and I'm slowly growing comfortable with it) that Cena will end the streak. If not him, then Orton will get a second shot at it. My dream would be for Bray Wyatt or Damien Sandow (after a huge push of course) or Dean Ambrose to end it, but I doubt any of them could get "big enough" in the next year or two for that to be workable. Alexander Rusev would actually be an awesome choice to do it, but I have the same concerns about him.
Actually, that's not true. My dream was (and still is) for CM Punk to end the streak. :sad:
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I agree I didn't see it that way but I disagree with that last statement. Now I don't want you to take offense cuz like you these are my opinions I also don't want you to think i'm being disrespectful to your dream cuz I'm not that guy. I never saw someone like Punk to end the streak in fact, just by how he was I always believed the WWE didn't want him the second he started acting rebellious and trailing off his ideas.
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I doubt the streak will ever end. They say all streaks are meant to be broken, but there's also exceptions to every rule. If anything, letting the streak live on even after Taker has hung the boots up would just help further "immortalize" him as an enigmatic figure in the eyes of the fan base. At the same time though, it would also ruin what would be one of the iconic moments in WWE as well as a huge opportunity to put someone over, but I'm not a fan of ending it just to end it.
I don't buy for a second that John Cena would end it (and certainly not Randy Orton) and the only real superstar on the roster right now that will likely have a big future for certain that I could buy letting end it would be Roman Reigns, but I seriously doubt he'd ever be given the honor either. The thing is, giving it to a newer star is a risk because you never know for sure whether they'll be a bust or whether they'll eventually lose momentum, no matter how hot they are at the moment. Or hell, you never know when they'll just decide to walk out after deciding that this business isn't for them (i.e Brock Lesnar.) Imagine if they had let Lesnar go over Taker at Mania during his original two year stint in the WWE. He would have walked out after being put over as the Streak-Killer (even though the streak was far less prestigious at the time) and left WWE nothing to show for it. Hell, Punk (despite not being the "newest" of stars at the time) faced Taker himself just last year and look at where he is now... gone.
I don't buy for a second that John Cena would end it (and certainly not Randy Orton) and the only real superstar on the roster right now that will likely have a big future for certain that I could buy letting end it would be Roman Reigns, but I seriously doubt he'd ever be given the honor either. The thing is, giving it to a newer star is a risk because you never know for sure whether they'll be a bust or whether they'll eventually lose momentum, no matter how hot they are at the moment. Or hell, you never know when they'll just decide to walk out after deciding that this business isn't for them (i.e Brock Lesnar.) Imagine if they had let Lesnar go over Taker at Mania during his original two year stint in the WWE. He would have walked out after being put over as the Streak-Killer (even though the streak was far less prestigious at the time) and left WWE nothing to show for it. Hell, Punk (despite not being the "newest" of stars at the time) faced Taker himself just last year and look at where he is now... gone.
Lockard I want you to think about this also, Reigns although he is young and has potential look back at that match with Bray Wyatt he was really exhausted halfway through. To me somebody like Reigns should have destroyed Bray. But then again Dean got involved. But you see my point? I honestly as much as I like Reigns and wanna believe he'd win I don't think he'd be the one to end the streak. I think it'll be one of those things that live on we'll after the person has quit.
Like I said, I go back and forth on it. Sometimes, I think it has to end (that is the way of the business), but other times I actually think they've made the Streak too big for anybody to end it.
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Yeah but at the same you gotta look back at Reigns vs Bray he was really exhausted halfway through the match. So can you honestly say Reigns would be the one to end the streak? Me honestly I think his streak is one of those things that will live on well after someone quits.
The is no reason for the Streak to end at all... at all. Losing the Streak would just be a way of saying...somebody was more important, so you lost. Even if he insisted on losing, greater heads should prevail.
What else does he have over HBK, Bret, Austin, Rock, Hogan, HHH and Cena but the Streak? He outlasted them all and I've never heard one bad word said about him, ever.
IF it were to end, it should be by a lifer. I'm talking Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan or John Cena. Silly, I get it, but so are some of the cats you guys are suggesting to end it. (No offense, I realize we are all pulling at straws, hypothetical if you will)
The ender should love this business more than you or I. Jericho, Bryan and Cena epitomize this, though I favor Jericho or Bryan who would out-wrestle Taker to a win. Passion and not $ should win out in this scenario
What else does he have over HBK, Bret, Austin, Rock, Hogan, HHH and Cena but the Streak? He outlasted them all and I've never heard one bad word said about him, ever.
IF it were to end, it should be by a lifer. I'm talking Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan or John Cena. Silly, I get it, but so are some of the cats you guys are suggesting to end it. (No offense, I realize we are all pulling at straws, hypothetical if you will)
The ender should love this business more than you or I. Jericho, Bryan and Cena epitomize this, though I favor Jericho or Bryan who would out-wrestle Taker to a win. Passion and not $ should win out in this scenario
I still say his last match should have been "the end of an era" match. Fuck Punk, lolCena, Brock would have been better 5 or so years ago, and guys like Bray still arent guaranteed to be here forever (as great as they may be Atm).