The State of the WWE

[Hidden Blaze]

Lately fans have been hijacking the shows and chanting whatever that please and telling Vince and Co to change what you're doing because we don't like it. Now I've looked at things from both sides here, and see Vince can't give every fan everything that want, or always give the majority of the fans what they want, but he has to sometimes give the fans what they want or you'll end up only pissing them off more and more. 90% at least of the fans don't wanna see Batista in the Main Event of Wrestlemania, yet that's what we'll be getting anyway. Fans wanna see Daniel Bryan pushed as the WWE Champion, and we've been waiting for months. Fans didn't get as riled up about it at first as they all felt we can play this waiting game, Daniel will get the title soon, oh don't worry the NEXT ppv this is it, we heard that for months and finally fans realized that Daniel might not get that push he deserves. So in a company where Batista is in the main event of Wrestlemania, and Daniel is gonna be facing Triple H(likely) we might just see Wrestlemania hijacked BIG TIME by the crowd, and let's not even talk about the Raw after it's gonna be hell for WWE. Do you think WWE needs to play it smart and some how get Daniel into the match, or stick to the plan they have now and risk a shit storm?

 

[Wang Chung]

Vince is going to do what Vince wants to do. The issue is I think they thought Batista was more of a star then he really was. Batista was no where over at all during his time there. Sure he got decent pops from time to time but he was really nothing I or anyone else really felt was that great at all and only got what he got because of evolution and he was friends with the Son In Law. Now I bet they go the route they are going and won't change the course because giving in would mean that they are wrong and that would show weakness. I can see them putting the belt on bryan soon but they could loose some fans but not all of them.

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[Hidden Blaze]

Vince is going to do what Vince wants to do. The issue is I think they thought Batista was more of a star then he really was. Batista was no where over at all during his time there. Sure he got decent pops from time to time but he was really nothing I or anyone else really felt was that great at all and only got what he got because of evolution and he was friends with the Son In Law. Now I bet they go the route they are going and won't change the course because giving in would mean that they are wrong and that would show weakness. I can see them putting the belt on Bryan soon but they could loose some fans but not all of them.

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I hope Daniel gets the belt soon, been pissed pretty much every time they've had Daniel get screwed out of the title. But I'll admit I was kinda excited when Batista was announced to come back, but then it hit me what was gonna happen and I was like dammit! but in the end if he puts over Daniel and Daniel gets the title it won't be so bad. I know I won't stop watching as much as it pisses me off, I just will hope and hope it gets better. Just hopefully Vince or someone realizes soon that the fans have to get what they want sometimes, not all the time but sometimes.

 

[Lover Boy]

Due to TNA being in such an horrendous state, WWE can mess up with quite a lot and get away with it as their simply isn't a good enough alternative to WWE.

That's the way it's going to be for a while imo.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Due to TNA being in such an horrendous state, WWE can mess up with quite a lot and get away with it as their simply isn't a good enough alternative to WWE.

That's the way it's going to be for a while imo.

Which is why I don't see why fans love that TNA is failing, the fans gotta see if TNA could some how pull out some big shock and miracle that WWE would have to really step their game up, it won't happen but fans surely should want it to happen rather you love WWE, TNA, or both. But as you said this is what happens when you got no one to compete with the WWE, they can do whatever they want to do and the fans have to just basically deal with it, which really sucks.

 

[Lover Boy]

Which is why I don't see why fans love that TNA is failing, the fans gotta see if TNA could some how pull out some big shock and miracle that WWE would have to really step their game up, it won't happen but fans surely should want it to happen rather you love WWE, TNA, or both. But as you said this is what happens when you got no one to compete with the WWE, they can do whatever they want to do and the fans have to just basically deal with it, which really sucks.

I want TNA to recover but I honestly don't see it ever happening.

I think TNA will be out of business before the year is out.

 

[Postman Dave]

if you're not a fan of the state of WWE now, be prepared to be disappointed more in the future.

Think about it, WWE hasn't had to sell Wrestlemania as an individual show this year. Why? The Network. WWE hasn't sold the show, they've sold the package. They don;t have to worry about the product itself so much because they've got all these other bells and whistles distracting people. So what if the card sucks, I can get all this awesome content with it!

The industry is changing folks, and until someone comes along to challenge them, WWE are going to book whoever they want to main event shows. Not happy about it? Here's episodes of Raw from 1997, go watch that instead. Because at the end of the day, it's still WWE, and you're still paying them for the content.

 

[Starlight]

TNA can only recover if this crap as storyline Dixie Carter, Bobby Roode, and MVP keep fighting for control. The TNA storylines are just WWE rip-off storylines from the attitude era. People do not realize Dixie is trying to be the Stephanie of TNA, but she's failing miserably. The dumb girl doesn't have charisma or decent mic skills. This stable she has started reminds me so much of the Corporation. I am over it. TNA needs to get rid of Dixie Carter because she's hurting the company more than anything. Seeing MVP and Bobby Roode as investors instead of wrestlers make no sense to me. I hate how TNA has turned to shit.

But speaking of WWE, I love it. The only thing I do not like are the Usos not being the tag team champions and the Wyatts being the Shield. I hate the Wyatts so much, they remind me of the dirty duck dynasty guys and I hate them. I prefer clean cut and good looking guys. And besides the Wyatts have terrible in-ring skills.

 

[Lover Boy]

TNA can only recover if this crap as storyline Dixie Carter, Bobby Roode, and MVP keep fighting for control. The TNA storylines are just WWE rip-off storylines from the attitude era. People do not realize Dixie is trying to be the Stephanie of TNA, but she's failing miserably. The dumb girl doesn't have charisma or decent mic skills. This stable she has started reminds me so much of the Corporation. I am over it. TNA needs to get rid of Dixie Carter because she's hurting the company more than anything. Seeing MVP and Bobby Roode as investors instead of wrestlers make no sense to me. I hate how TNA has turned to shit.

But speaking of WWE, I love it. The only thing I do not like are the Usos not being the tag team champions and the Wyatts being the Shield. I hate the Wyatts so much, they remind me of the dirty duck dynasty guys and I hate them. I prefer clean cut and good looking guys. And besides the Wyatts have terrible in-ring skills.

The storylines are the least of TNA's problems at the moment.

Money is their main issue, they're really struggling. They are not getting big enough crowds at their shows and with NXT being on a Thursday night it will affect them even more. I believe they've been paying some venue's due to the fact they're not bringing in enough fans to cover the costs of the venue. I'm afraid that TNA are in huge trouble.

 

[Sabretooth]

And all this shit is just because Daniel Bryan is not wwe champion yet. I'm confident he will be soon. Just be patient. TNA is a whole different story. They're pretty much fucked

 

[Starlight]

But Charlie the reason why they have money issues is because they are paying so many WWE has-been's and nobodies, using stale ass storylines, and not speaking to the majority of the wrestling community. Wrestling fans are not dedicating themselves fully into their product, which is in turn is hurting them. I think having to bring back the days of old TNA where we had fresh faces and original match is the best thing for the company. Having Double J on there as a main guy of the administration and on-camera was ten times better than seeing Dixie's bony ass every single blasted week. The knockouts and x-divisions are a freaking joke now. TNA use to be so promising for women's wrestling fans and x-division fans. Not anymore. I don't even know what TNA fans see in it anymore.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

And all this shit is just because Daniel Bryan is not wwe champion yet. I'm confident he will be soon. Just be patient. TNA is a whole different story. They're pretty much fucked

We been told to be patient since Aug my man, Remember Summerslam? People was mad? "Just be patient, Daniel will get it soon." okay, next PPV. "Just wait, Daniel's gonna get his revenge on Orton and win the title." we kept waiting, we heard "Wrestlemania will be better for him to win it at anyway." so yeah, I've been pretty patient so far, and still seems Daniel gets looked over. Will he get his title run? For sure he'll get it, but this being patient thing is getting a little stupid because being patient most of the time pays off after a month or two. By the time he does win it we'd have been patient for at least 8 or 9 months, maybe a year. That's not being patient that's just crazy.


edit: Let's try to not talk to much about TNA, when it was use to say that WWE can do what they want cause the closest thing they have to competition is WWE, which isn't much on the scale of of it. But let's not go into a full on debate on TNA's problem. Make a State of TNA thread for that if you like. Thanks.

 

[Sabretooth]

We been told to be patient since Aug my man, Remember Summerslam? People was mad? "Just be patient, Daniel will get it soon." okay, next PPV. "Just wait, Daniel's gonna get his revenge on Orton and win the title." we kept waiting, we heard "Wrestlemania will be better for him to win it at anyway." so yeah, I've been pretty patient so far, and still seems Daniel gets looked over. Will he get his title run? For sure he'll get it, but this being patient thing is getting a little stupid because being patient most of the time pays off after a month or two. By the time he does win it we'd have been patient for at least 8 or 9 months, maybe a year. That's not being patient that's just crazy.


edit: Let's try to not talk to much about TNA, when it was use to say that WWE can do what they want cause the closest thing they have to competition is WWE, which isn't much on the scale of of it. But let's not go into a full on debate on TNA's problem. Make a State of TNA thread for that if you like. Thanks.

Then when Daniel wins it it'll be that much much sweeter

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Then when Daniel wins it it'll be that much much sweeter

It will be sweeter, but at the same time sometimes its better not to keep fans waiting. Where Daniel could win it at Extreme Rules, Money in the Bank, Summerslam etc. It would have been a bit better to have it happen sooner. Also who's to say he'll even get the title while this storyline is going on? Maybe the storyline will end before Daniel ever gets the belt and when he does it won't mean as much as when he was feuding with Triple H. Now chances of that happens are slim because I don't even think they are dumb enough to end the storyline without Daniel ever getting the belt, but who knows.

 

[Lover Boy]

But Charlie the reason why they have money issues is because they are paying so many WWE has-been's and nobodies, using stale ass storylines, and not speaking to the majority of the wrestling community. Wrestling fans are not dedicating themselves fully into their product, which is in turn is hurting them. I think having to bring back the days of old TNA where we had fresh faces and original match is the best thing for the company. Having Double J on there as a main guy of the administration and on-camera was ten times better than seeing Dixie's bony ass every single blasted week. The knockouts and x-divisions are a freaking joke now. TNA use to be so promising for women's wrestling fans and x-division fans. Not anymore. I don't even know what TNA fans see in it anymore.

Going back to the old days of TNA would take too much time, TNA don't have that amount of time.

They need a quick fix or it's the end for them.