The Saga of Sasha Banks (and Naomi) Megathread

[Smart Marx]

If I was wrong there so be it I can admit that on thar aspect but still doesn't change my view on Sasha on the major story of this

You can absolutely feel however you want about this story for sure. You’re just wrong about the Paige thing.

 

[Sabretooth]

If someone I knew told me they walked out of their job, my first thought wouldn't be to start defending his place of work. No idea where this lack of humanity comes from and this weird thought that everyone just needs to tough it out and are somehow shitty for daring to walk away from something.

Damn I agree with you man

 

[Comrade Khan]

For those who have asked about the Raw walkout, one version of the story that has been floated by several PWInsider.com has spoken with is that the originally conceived finish was that the WWE Women's Tag Team Champions would face off during the main event of Raw in the Six Pack Challenge, with Naomi beating Banks to end the match.

PWInsider.com is that the original plan for Raw would have seen Banks and Naomi featured in two or three segments building up the idea that they would be facing off in the Six Pack Challenge. Raw would have gone off the air with the pair celebrating that Naomi was going to face Belair at the Hell in the Cell PPV.

The conceived storyline idea was that Naomi would then go on to Hell In A Cell and lose to Bianca Belair. There are some who believe that at this week’s Smackdown, an angle would have also been shot for Sasha Banks to wrestle and lose to Ronda Rousey, likely also at HIAC. So, the Women's Tag Team Champions would have effectively have been used to put over the Raw and Smackdown Women's Championship titleholders.

We are told that at some point during the day, likely after the initial concerns about creative were raised, there was an alternative idea that would have been Banks and Naomi have a short tag team match instead and be beat down after to set up a different program. One source cited their opponents would have been Nikki A.S.H. and Doudrop but we have not 100% confirmed that to be the case.

We are told that shortly before Raw, Banks and Naomi were informed by WWE Producer Molly Holly that WWE was going with the Six Pack Challenge direction with Naomi going over. Shortly after, they informed John Laurinaitis they were leaving, leaving the WWE Women's Tag Team Championship belts behind.

PWInsider.com is told Vince McMahon, sitting at the gorilla position was told about the talents leaving just as or right after Raw went on the air. The Becky Lynch-Adam Pearce segment was pitched on the spot (one source credited Lynch with the idea) and Vince McMahon ordered it to be shot and then placed into the show to start explaining the change to the by-now announced Raw main event.

The belief among some is that the creative issue was not with Banks losing to Naomi but how the duo would have been portrayed over the next several weeks, especially after they had put so much time into building their team once Vince McMahon issued an edict that they would be teaming and winning the Women’s Tag Team titles at Wrestlemania 38 - and that after diving into building that team, they were going to wrestle each other and go off to put over other talents, leaving them, exactly where, which apparently was the crux of the issue. The WWE plan looks to have been that the WWE Women’s Tag Team Championship would have been downplayed until their next program after Hell In A Cell concluded.

So according to this, they wanted Sasha to job to Naomi only for both to job to the respective champions, while not defending their championships for a what looks like close to a month. basically, heres so titles you dont get to defend and worked really hard on getting your team over, go job in singles for ??? reason. yeah I don't blame them one bit, that's fucking trash booking

 

[JakeYourBooty]

As someone who has been left to cover for people that have walked out on their job I feel it’s a shitty thing to do. Finish your work day then make your move don’t leave your coworkers to cover for you.


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[Sabretooth]

I can only imagine Vince’s reaction when he found out they left

 

[Hoss]

As someone who has been left to cover for people that have walked out on their job I feel it’s a shitty thing to do. Finish your work day then make your move don’t leave your coworkers to cover for you.


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I don't feel that really translates here because them walking out doesn't really add any more workload onto their peers. Might make the backstage environment a little more tense for the night or whatever but it's not the same as like a waiter walking out mid-shift for example.

 

[JakeYourBooty]

I don't feel that really translates here because them walking out doesn't really add any more workload onto their peers. Might make the backstage environment a little more tense for the night or whatever but it's not the same as like a waiter walking out mid-shift for example.

Becky and Asuka had to change to a full blown singles match and producers had map it out last minute


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[Comrade Khan]

Becky and Asuka had to change to a full blown singles match and producers had map it out last minute


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oh no! the horror!

you mean like when creative makes changes before the show because vince ripped up the script?

 

[Comrade Khan]

As someone who has been left to cover for people that have walked out on their job I feel it’s a shitty thing to do. Finish your work day then make your move don’t leave your coworkers to cover for you.


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make your workplace better or hire better folks and people won't likely walk out. People don't tend to walk out for no reason

 

[Hoss]

Becky and Asuka had to change to a full blown singles match and producers had map it out last minute


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Doesn't feel that crazy to me for them to do something they've probably done dozens of times before but I'm not a wrestler I guess

 

[Comrade Khan]

Doesn't feel that crazy to me for them to do something they've probably done dozens of times before but I'm not a wrestler I guess

dozen is being minimizing, they change the script every monday multiple times, if reports are to be believed. this would just be another day at the office

 

[JakeYourBooty]

Doesn't feel that crazy to me for them to do something they've probably done dozens of times before but I'm not a wrestler I guess

I’m not saying it is but I was just showing a similarity to the post Of mine you quoted.


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[Comrade Khan]

Sasha and Naomi leaving isn't some slight on the rest of the roster by leaving them hanging, that's classic management talk for getting workers to not be united and fighting amongst themselves instead. same reason they put out that false statement to make it seem like Sasha and Naomi were talking shit about their peers by feeling "uncomfortable" . its so transparent to me , at least

 

[Alexa]

So, Sasha and Naomi walking out is okay, but Shida doing what she did isn't? I am just trying to figure the line you are walking Jeff because you are bashing, for a lack of a better word, people who are defending WWE yet you defended AEW in the Shida thread. Because if Sasha had a problem with anything shouldn't she have as you said before " talk to her boss like an adult" about everything.

 

[Comrade Khan]

So, Sasha and Naomi walking out is okay, but Shida doing what she did isn't? I am just trying to figure the line you are walking Jeff because you are bashing, for a lack of a better word, people who are defending WWE yet you defended AEW in the Shida thread. Because if Sasha had a problem with anything shouldn't she have as you said before " talk to her boss like an adult" about everything.

sasha and naomi walked out after speaking with management. they also didnt go on twitter right after. they just did the thing.

shida put out a tweet after the fact (which, quite frankly, i still think was just bad translation and frustration)

If there was years of evidence of Shida being lied to and finally snapping, Id have no issue taking her side here. I don't think they are the same situation but I can appreciate the comparison regardless. Had Shida talked to tk, he told her nah were gonna do this instead last second, and she was like your making me look weak im bouncing, then yea, I think I would be on Shida's side.