The Russo-Ukrainian War Thread (FKA Political Thread)

[Chris]

Anyone have an opinion on Direct Energy Weapons (DEW)? A lot of speculation that this could be the cause of some of the recent forest fires on the west coast. I'm looking into them myself now, but if anyone wants to discuss it, I'm down when I brush up a little more on it. It is very i nteresting so far.

No idea other than hearing the name before. If I had to guess, I'd assume the fires were more natural just from the time of year and the overall weather we've had this year though? I mean sure some of them could probably be traced back to a cigarette or some shit, but I'd still say that's "natural" at least compared to DEW. Like I said haven't looked into it myself though.

The only thing I've really seen about the cause of the fires out West rn was allegedely a gender reveal caused one so lefties have been critical of that pretty hard even though there's like over 300+ fires burning rn....and that may have started one. Haven't even fact checked that myself bc it seemed pointless with all the fires going on rn if it started just the one/

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Yeah I read about that gender reveal party starting one


What dumbasses


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[Chris]

Yeah I read about that gender reveal party starting one


What dumbasses


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And if it did they should be held responsible for what can be traced to them, but most comments I've seen about it are blaming them for all the fires. Seems like a cop-out

 

[Chris]

Also idk if I posted this a few pages ago or not (meant to), but FiveThirtyEight have their election forecast out, still early though. I believe they're normally very accurate, but they were historically wrong in 2016...and had Hillary as about as much of a favorite as Biden They build it based off all the other polls though, and polling was clearly not accurate in 2016. I don't think it'd be all that much better this year either tbf, just seems like an outdated system. Either way, I like numbers so it's interesting to me. Shows what states each person needs to win as well:

2020 Election Forecast

Latest forecast of the 2020 presidential election between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden by Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[Chris]

And in their defense, they had Hillary at like a 70% favorite going into election night which is far from a for sure win, the 30% just happened.

 

[Swamps]

No idea other than hearing the name before. If I had to guess, I'd assume the fires were more natural just from the time of year and the overall weather we've had this year though? I mean sure some of them could probably be traced back to a cigarette or some shit, but I'd still say that's "natural" at least compared to DEW. Like I said haven't looked into it myself though.

The only thing I've really seen about the cause of the fires out West rn was allegedely a gender reveal caused one so lefties have been critical of that pretty hard even though there's like over 300+ fires burning rn....and that may have started one. Haven't even fact checked that myself bc it seemed pointless with all the fires going on rn if it started just the one/

I think the fires are a combination of multiple things. I have no personal knowledge, so it is just my opinion. People setting fires, both intentionally and unintentionally. Restrictions of controlled burns have hurt. Building more infrastructure to close to forests have hurt. Also, the fact that California doesn't do a good job at replacing outdated power lines. I read that the fire in 2018 was caused mainly to a faulty powerline that hadn't been updated since 1921. I know they're trying to go more green friendly, but you can't ignore stuff that needs to be replaced.

 

[Chris]

I think the fires are a combination of multiple things. I have no personal knowledge, so it is just my opinion. People setting fires, both intentionally and unintentionally. Restrictions of controlled burns have hurt. Building more infrastructure to close to forests have hurt. Also, the fact that California doesn't do a good job at replacing outdated power lines. I read that the fire in 2018 was caused mainly to a faulty powerline that hadn't been updated since 1921. I know they're trying to go more green friendly, but you can't ignore stuff that needs to be replaced.

Probably at least a combination of a few of these if I had to guess. People want to look for one "scapegoat" reason for everything when it's usually a LOT of reasons for catastrophes like this, shouldn't fucking happen just bc of one fuck up.

 

[Swamps]

And in their defense, they had Hillary at like a 70% favorite going into election night which is far from a for sure win, the 30% just happened.

A problem with polling, is that they don't seek information from many different types of voters. They're nearly comprised of many of the same type of thinkers. In my opinion, unless there are some shenanigans, this election will not be close.

 

[Chris]

A problem with polling, is that they don't seek information from many different types of voters. They're nearly comprised of many of the same type of thinkers. In my opinion, unless there are some shenanigans, this election will not be close.

I don't think the polling has ever been as bad as it was in 2016 though, the reason given at the time was a lot of rural Trump voters that normally didn't even vote simply weren't polled for that reason. They didn't anticipate that enthusiasm I guess, believable enough. But I have no faith that they've updated their systems to account for it in 4 years either.

 

[Swamps]

Probably at least a combination of a few of these if I had to guess. People want to look for one "scapegoat" reason for everything when it's usually a LOT of reasons for catastrophes like this, shouldn't fucking happen just bc of one fuck up.

Yeah, that is one thing that always pisses me off. There shouldn't be a scapegoat for every little thing. Sometimes bad stuff just happens.

 

[Chris]

Yeah, that is one thing that always pisses me off. There shouldn't be a scapegoat for every little thing. Sometimes bad stuff just happens.

Mostly bc blaming someone and sticking band-aid fixes on it is so much easier than tackling root problems. And it tends to work for a good while for most things until all those band-aids pop off at one time

 

[Swamps]

Mostly bc blaming someone and sticking band-aid fixes on it is so much easier than tackling root problems. And it tends to work for a good while for most things until all those band-aids pop off at one time

That is the Human Race in a nutshell. Take the easy, yet lazy, way out. Do not worry, im sure the next generation will fix it. Or the one after. Then the next generation will just blame the previous generation. Its a vicious cycle.

 

[Chris]

Another thing that upsets me about the human race in general that applies to politics more often than not similarly is focusing entirely too much on who's fault something was. Yes I want people to reach justice, but just focusing on punishments without TRYING TO FIX THE FUCKING PROBLEM CAUSEd is only half the battle, someone still has to fix it. But no one wants to fix things that they don't believe are their fault anyway even when it's their job....as noticed by me in my actual place of work as well

 

[Chris]

Book it

 

[Bobby Barrows]

Some stuff to sift through after today's testimony.