The Political Thread

[Barry Poppins]

Wow, a Mormon being a piece of shit? I'm shocked.

 

[Comrade Khan]

One thing I find shocking is that Iran was so unprepared. It's always a trope that there's warnings before attacks and that generates all the conspiracy theory, and almost always if you really look at the context, you can empathize with the people that didn't listen. But when America pulled their people from the region and Trump basically said he gave up telling Israel not to bomb them, how was that not obvious what was happening?

Letting it happen justifies hard retaliation , maybe. The US let 911 happen according to some

 

[Chris]

Letting it happen justifies hard retaliation , maybe. The US let 911 happen according to some

Pearl Harbor too is another one, but I don't really subscribe to either. I think what actually happened in both cases (very eerily similar) is they knew an attack was coming, but the actual attacks that happened seemed so far fetched that they didn't entertain them because they thought others were more likely.

In this case it just seems like negligence though, they didn't even have their top military people in any kind of protection, that's why Israel was able to strike their residences. They could have let the attacks happen without letting those specific people be victims

 

[Barry Poppins]

Pearl Harbor is a different situation as well because the Japanese government was late in delivering a letter to the US ambassador before the embassy closed, so the official declaration of war was completely missed.

People think it was a surprise attack, but the Japanese simply missed the deadline to declare war because the embassy closed.

 

[Chris]

Pearl Harbor is a different situation as well because the Japanese government was late in delivering a letter to the US ambassador before the embassy closed, so the official declaration of war was completely missed.

People think it was a surprise attack, but the Japanese simply missed the deadline to declare war because the embassy closed.

I mean this is where my conspiracy starts lol I think that was a convenient excuse and they never intended to give America that heads up bc if they did then the entire attack would have been wasted and not very eventful

 

[Chris]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attack-strikes-news-06-16-25-intl-hnk#cmbzbv7vr000i3b6nkox3z7za#cmbzbv7vr000i3b6nkox3z7za

The Israeli military confirmed it attacked the studio of Iran’s state television channel, IRINN, on Monday.

The Israel Defense Forces said its air force “conducted a precise strike based on intelligence provided by the Intelligence Directorate, targeting a communication center that was being used for military purposes by the Iranian Armed Forces.”

“The building was used by the Iranian Armed Forces under the guise of civilian activity, covering up the military use of the center’s infrastructure and assets. The strike directly harmed the military capabilities of the Iranian Armed Forces,” the IDF added.

Confirmation of the strike comes after explosions interrupted a live broadcast by anchor Sahar Imami.

“Prior to the strike, the IDF provided an effective advanced warning to the civilian population, including phone calls, and conducted the strike in a precise manner in order to mitigate harm to civilians as far as feasible,” the IDF said.

Earlier Monday, the IDF issued an evacuation order in Tehran’s 3rd District, where the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting has offices. IRINN is part of IRIB. In a post in Farsi on X, the IDF said it would take action in the district in the coming hours to attack the Iranian regime’s military infrastructure.

Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz also confirmed the military struck the studio.

“The Iranian regime’s propaganda and incitement broadcasting authority was attacked by the IDF after a large-scale evacuation of the surrounding area. We will hit the Iranian dictator everywhere,” Katz said on X.

 

[Chris]

Trump to leave G7 summit early and return to Washington – US politics live

White House says president – who earlier warned people in Tehran to evacuate – will leave summit in Canada today

www.theguardian.com

Donald Trump will leave the G7 summit early and return to Washington DC on Monday, the White House said about an hour after the president said people in Iran’s capital Tehran should evacuate immediately.

Trump’s evacuation warning on Truth Social followed a warning from the Israeli defense forces issued a formal evacuation order to residents of Tehran warning them of the imminent bombing of “military infrastructure”.

Trump was originally supposed to arrive back in the US in the early hours of Wednesday morning, according to people familiar with the matter.

 

[O-Blaze]

Man about to get us into a damn war ain't he

 

[Chris]

Iran has already made comment of the arms America supplies with Israel that I personally interpreted as "only a matter of time until we hit one of your assets in the area if you don't stop or move them" so I expect that to be our reason why bc it can be sold. That's unless Israel just wipes them out first bc they're clearly trying

 

[Barry Poppins]

You'd think the smarter thing to do would be to help foment a democratic revolution in Iran, and/or a constitutional restoration of the Pahlavi family as Shah.

Iran having a president/prime Minister/constitutional monarch makes them far better allies in the middle east than just wiping them off the map wholesale.

 

[Chris]

Fwiw I don't think trump is fully on board with this either, not that it really matters if he still ends up supporting. But there were more scheduled talks with Iran about a nuclear deal that Trump is desperate to fix (after he fucked it up his first term) for Sunday that got indefinitely cancelled due to the attacks, and he already begged Israel to not attacked them months ago when they wanted to. They didn't listen this time and in Trump's weird brain, who knows how he's taking that. Can't fucking predict anything rationally when he's president even status quo Republican things I'd disagree with

 

[Loochblade]

Federal charges means Trump can pardon him.

*will

 

[Barry Poppins]

Fwiw I don't think trump is fully on board with this either, not that it really matters if he still ends up supporting. But there were more scheduled talks with Iran about a nuclear deal that Trump is desperate to fix (after he fucked it up his first term) for Sunday that got indefinitely cancelled due to the attacks, and he already begged Israel to not attacked them months ago when they wanted to. They didn't listen this time and in Trump's weird brain, who knows how he's taking that. Can't fucking predict anything rationally when he's president even status quo Republican things I'd disagree with

Yeah, I was alas positing that in a reasonable US government, it would be a better plan of action.

 

[Loochblade]

Would be wild to see Trump suddenly be like "You know what? Israel isn't actually good! Who would've thought?"

 

[Tommy Shelby]

It's not all Israel that are bad it's the fuckwits in the government that are. They're the most right wing government ever since 1948 which consists of a coalition of four parties who are worse than the P.M. . Katz is the worst fucking one hardliner to the core. Don't judge all other Israelis based on the fucking idiots in government.

We all have fucked up countries and have empathy for some that don't want wars happening at all .