The Political Thread

[CakeWalker]

Nope. But you are taking that parts you want to suit you own nonsense agenda.

 

[CakeWalker]

I also notice you lack a pretty large amount of nuance with regards to believing that the Israeli government wouldn't try and manipulate its own people, just because of some vague notion that it would play into "All Jews Lie" which... no?

All governments lie. The US Government is notorious for being among the biggest liars in the world. Why would Israel be any different? Because your bias and blinders refuse to allow you to just accept that the Israeli government is as corrupt as any other?

October 7th. Ain't a lie you silly cunt

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Nope. But you are taking that parts you want to suit you own nonsense agenda.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[CakeWalker]

Israel's agenda. Don't die and stop terrorism.
Hamas agenda (and we can stop pretending that a good % of Palastine isn't in favour of Hamas) eradicate all Jews and enforce Sharia law.
That means no gay, or lesbians or trans people or anything like that. Pick a side.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

October 7th. Ain't a lie you silly cunt

Motherfucker, of course the IDF would deny having information about it beforehand you daft bitch.

It's the same vein as the USA knowing about 9/11 or knowing Japan was planning an attack on them.

Of course they'd deny it after the fact cuz it makes them look bad.

But you're too fucking stupid and too fuckin biased to understand that, because you don't fucking know anything about this war other than what you want to know.

You accept pieces that already fit your bias and refuse to accept Israel's part in their WELL RECORDED human rights violations.

So fuck off buttercup.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

And no, I refuse to pick a side between terrorists and a far-right theocratic government.

Eat shit, Cake.

 

[CakeWalker]

Literally had a family friend die on October 7th.
I think I know more, than a fucking Pizza Takeaway employee from Minnesotta, whose most controversial life journey is that his brother is a Republican.

 

[CakeWalker]

And no, I refuse to pick a side between terrorists and a far-right theocratic government.

Eat shit, Cake.

thinking all of Israel is far right, sort of proves your narrow view

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Literally had a family friend die on October 7th.
I think I know more, than a fucking Pizza Takeaway employee from Minnesotta, whose most controversial life journey is that his brother is a Republican.

First off, I'm sorry that your friend died, but you clearly are biased regarding the war. You refuse to see reason that Netenyahu does not have Israeli or the Middle East's best interest in hand.

Regardless how bad HAMAS is.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

thinking all of Israel is far right, sort of proves your narrow view

Yes, it is. Israel is a theocratic government and Netwnyahu is extremely conservative.

And I never said all of Israel was far right, you idiot. I said the government is.

 

[CakeWalker]

theocratic government yes.
but still very progressive in so many ways.
this perfect world where HAMAS aren't hiding behind people doesn't exist.
IDF have always given warnings etc.
omg Israel should just stop fighting and let HAMAS kill them all.
that is a fucking great idea.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Notice how literally none of Israel's actions has done anything to actually stop Hamas. Yeah those schools and hospitals are toooootally secret Hamas bases. Almost as if their aim isn't to destroy them huh. More likely it's to complete the genocide of the Palestinians using Oct7 as carte blanche. Hamas could in theory stop this by releasing the hostages but they won't, because they're getting their money from Daddy Ben

 

[CakeWalker]

oh yes. all the HAMAS targeted buildings, are just excuses. of course. of course.
it was all just a ruse.
the allies made up their was jewish death camps, to invade germany and stop their rise to world power.
oh yeah. it is all a conspiracy. Hamas are in pocket with the Israeli goverment. Iran and Lebanon also fire missiles into Israel.
OOOOOH ITS A CONSPRIACY
THE ILLUMINATI.

 

[Emb]

If Fascists were to take over the United States and a Fascist USA starts attacking the rest of North America, who's going to stop them?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

theocratic government yes.
but still very progressive in so many ways.
this perfect world where HAMAS aren't hiding behind people doesn't exist.
IDF have always given warnings etc.
omg Israel should just stop fighting and let HAMAS kill them all.
that is a fucking great idea.

Sure, but even conservative governments can have progressive policies. Not everything is totally left and right like it seems to be in the US. I don't think I've ever argued otherwise.

Secondly, nobody is rooting for HAMAS to win, not even those opposed to the war. It's a fallacy to think that if Israel, who has the strongest military in the middle east, who is also backed up by the strongest military in the world, is suddenly going to be vulnerable and destroyed by a rag tag bunch of terrorists.

Its just not, but a ceasefire will at least allow for civilians who need go evacuate to get out of Gaza, or get the aid they so desperately need.

Israel is going to beat HAMAS regardless what happens, but why allow pointless suffering to be conducted when Israel can put innocent civilians as their first measure of protection? On both sides.