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Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the U.S. stands squarely by Israel and will ensure it “has what it needs to defend itself” after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared war against Palestinian militants that launched a surprise attack on his country.
 

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senseless and disgusting act by Hamas
 

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Israel's answer is arguably just as bad though.

Hamas is scum, but this is something that Israel has more or less caused for themselves with continual human rights violations in the region and radicalizing people against them.

And now Israel's answer to a terroristic attack is to starve out more civilians from being able to just have basic necessities?
 

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I don't think anything Isreal has done can justify murdering over 200+ young festival goers in cold blood and taking hundreds as human shields. I can sympathize with the Palestinians right to exist, but saying Isreal has caused this for themselves isn't something I can agree with.
 
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it was also done on the 50th year anniversary of the Yam Capur war, if I am not mistaken.
 

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I don't think anything Isreal has done can justify murdering over 200+ young festival goers in cold blood and taking hundreds as human shields. I can sympathize with the Palestinians right to exist, but saying Isreal has caused this for themselves isn't something I can agree with.
I'm not justifying murder or terrorism, but Israel's occupation and degradation of the quality of life of Palestinians over the last 80 years is well known. There's a cause and effect, much in the same way that America's occupation of Afghanistan radicalized many native Afghans against us.

Hamas is scum of the Earth though. The whole region fucking sucks tbh.
 

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well there is also the fact that Hamas is nervous because Saudi Arabia and Israel are in some sort of peace or defense talk. That weakens Iran who is basically Hamas. It's not wonder the Russians are backing up Hamas here too.
 

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well there is also the fact that Hamas is nervous because Saudi Arabia and Israel are in some sort of peace or defense talk. That weakens Iran who is basically Hamas. It's not wonder the Russians are backing up Hamas here too.
For sure. Basically a who's who of authoritarian and despotic regimes. To quote Full Metal Jacket, "It's a huge shit sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite."
 

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9 Americans confirmed dead in the attacks so far too with more unaccounted for to make things messier
 

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Yep, I read that the other day apparently like 100+ taken hostage or something.