But I will say that the attitude of you leftists is hurting your causes. Me being shouted down, ridiculed, insulted, and personally attacked does not make me more sympathetic to your causes or viewpoints. If anything, it makes me want to double down to get back at you. If you want to stifle the opposing opinion so be it. But don't be surprised when elections like 2016 happen again because we keep our opinions to ourselves and let the voting do the talking. You do not want to negotiate. You do not want to understand. You want to attack, browbeat, ridicule, and silence anyone who opposes you. I don't think you'll like it when the shoe is on the other foot. Game on.