The Political Thread

[Chris]

Roe and marriage were settled law. Nothing could be done from any elected politician about them. It wasn’t until this year Roe had a chance of being overturned. So NOW anti-abortion talk holds more weight because once that goes, they have power to do something. But, that’s more local level because Roe overturning means only states get a day so no federal politicians would mean much. You’d need to be more careful with local elections. I don’t believe gay marriage is going anywhere, though. Federally, state or SC. There are more equally protections the SC can turn to where as abortion was kinda plucked from nowhere in the privacy clause. I don’t think they’d attempt it. As for gun laws, it’s a bit different. There isn’t a ruling saying from the SC barring anything but single possession of handguns so a state Governor can pass State bans and a senator can help pass federal laws. Now of course they’d still need 60 in the senate so Texas could theoretically elect a senator with gun control policies if they have faith in other states to retain their red seats, but Governor is a bigger deal.

See this is why I want to know people's specific beliefs and where they draw lines lol it's the only way I can understand people's thought processes nowadays when everything is pushed to one side or another, it's not to GOTCHA or anything like you said when I was asking about the AKs but it's hard to converse without knowing actual beliefs or when you're just being pragmatic. Me drilling down into your beliefs when you post something isn't to make you look bad or show youre some kind of hypocrite, it's just to understand your thought process

 

[Bobby Barrows]

What it comes down to, is that it appears in the case of anti-abortion / gay marriage / LGBTQ vs gun legislature, Smark will always prioritize the rights of targeted people over guns, because gun legislation can be reversed at a later date, but rights of people must always be upheld no matter what, so an anti-2A Moderate Democrat to Smark is better than a hard right Republican.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

At least that is what it appears I'm observing, no?

 

[Canadian Dragon]

You’ve said many times in here that I’m trash, indirectly. I’ve seen the veiled bullshit you’ve continuously said about all right of center people. It’s not hard to lose respect from extremists.

And yeah, I think my rights are as important as others rights. There shouldn’t be a hierarchy on rights.

That being said, I told Blaze I’d vote for gay rights if I had to over Gun rights so enjoy being blinded.

Im not an extremist, i just see through your infoctrined bullshit . Keep worshipping a piece of paper and a big orange lying sack of shit and thinking ppl who are angry at you actively voting these assholes in are the extreme ones. Your the only first world nation w a gun problem who thinks less guns is bad. Your either morally bankrupt , willfully ignorant or a complere idiot to want gubs this bad . I dont give a fuck what your excuse is, you suck.

 

[Kross Rhodes]

At least that is what it appears I'm observing, no?

More or less accurate. Social issues moving forward is a bigger issue and honestly speaking isn’t likely to actually go completely backwards, imo.

But, push comes to shove, absolutely. The 2004 ban had to be reauthorized and we’d do something g similar to ensure it wasn’t permanent this time.

 

[Canadian Dragon]

Plus your pro life so your also a piece of shit there too. Fucking moral hypocrites dont want gov to control guns but womens ovaries yes. Youre all sick in the head

 

[Deezy]

What it comes down to, is that it appears in the case of anti-abortion / gay marriage / LGBTQ vs gun legislature, Smark will always prioritize the rights of targeted people over guns, because gun legislation can be reversed at a later date, but rights of people must always be upheld no matter what, so an anti-2A Moderate Democrat to Smark is better than a hard right Republican.

Smark said he supported all those, but he also supported the 2nd amendment....he wasn't the one who was pitting all those against it.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

Smark said he supported all those, but he also supported the 2nd amendment....he wasn't the one who was pitting all those against it.

Except we weren't pitting it against them, we were asking for a scale of priorities.

 

[Kross Rhodes]

Im not an extremist, i just see through your infoctrined bullshit . Keep worshipping a piece of paper and a big orange lying sack of shit and thinking ppl who are angry at you actively voting these assholes in are the extreme ones. Your the only first world nation w a gun problem who thinks less guns is bad. Your either morally bankrupt , willfully ignorant or a complere idiot to want gubs this bad . I dont give a fuck what your excuse is, you suck.

I don’t like Trump and you are an extreme. That attempt to make me a MAGA dope proves it.

Everything about your rhetoric is extremely pointed to what you believe with little wiggle room at all.

The fact you’d call me a piece of shit for supporting my rights like 66% of this country do and you don’t care that I support everything other socially liberal cause is the very definition of extreme, Jeff.

 

[Deezy]

Im not an extremist, i just see through your infoctrined bullshit . Keep worshipping a piece of paper and a big orange lying sack of shit and thinking ppl who are angry at you actively voting these assholes in are the extreme ones. Your the only first world nation w a gun problem who thinks less guns is bad. Your either morally bankrupt , willfully ignorant or a complere idiot to want gubs this bad . I dont give a fuck what your excuse is, you suck.

"I'm not an extremist"....proceeds to go to extreme assumptions and using "either you with us or against us" rhetoric with insults.

 

[Kross Rhodes]

Smark said he supported all those, but he also supported the 2nd amendment....he wasn't the one who was pitting all those against it.

 

[Deezy]

Except we weren't pitting it against them, we were asking for a scale of priorities.

What it comes down to, is that it appears in the case of anti-abortion / gay marriage / LGBTQ vs gun legislature

 

[Kross Rhodes]

Plus your pro life so your also a piece of shit there too. Fucking moral hypocrites dont want gov to control guns but womens ovaries yes. Youre all sick in the head

I don’t want to kill babies. I’m truly sick.

Also, pro-life, personally. I support abortions up to viability. Again, too extreme to see nuance.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

Which I suppose in a semantics argument is pitting it against 2A, but not really.

I personally don't really see 2A as important as other rights guaranteed by the constitution, such as the 1st, 3rd, 4th, or 5th, among others.

But that's a matter of perspective.

 

[Canadian Dragon]

I don’t like Trump and you are an extreme. That attempt to make me a MAGA dope proves it.

Everything about your rhetoric is extremely pointed to what you believe with little wiggle room at all.

The fact you’d call me a piece of shit for supporting my rights like 66% of this country do and you don’t care that I support everything other socially liberal cause is the very definition of extreme, Jeff.

Nah . Im just a canadian who lives in a country where gun control exists and abortions arent gettin banned. America is extreme, im reacting yo garbage opinions n think u suck for them. Think im extreme all u want,u still suck in my book n i think your political opinions are shit.