The Name's Bond... James Bond MAFIA: Game Thread

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It matters to me because I put in a strong effort this game and caught Haza dead to rights and then tried to help town with Shawn and it sucks getting indy reads now. Fucking blows big chunks.

The thing is, regardless, neither of you are getting lynched tomorrow. So let's move on and find scum please.
 

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We got an outed vig and a tracker and a doctor, all of whom are pretty likely town, plus Doddsy has hinted at some stuff. That's quite enough targets for scum and SK to choose from if you ask me. There's an almost 100% chance that the people who haven't claimed yet get to claim tomorrow. And as I said before, if we have another info role in the hole, the reason that player wouldn't have revealed themselves is because they don't have any valuable info to share so far.

We're not mass claiming during this night phase.
 

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You're agreeing with being the vig and so I have no reason to counter this, but I was in no way in a dangerous position for POE. I have the strongest town read in the game right now which is why I definitely wouldn't have countered shit if I thought I'd get this reaction.
But youre in a very dangerous position for getting shot. Scum dont want to take the time to kill the SK at this point
 

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I'd very much like to lynch Ace tomorrow so I can get my second shot. That's really all I have the strength to say right now.
 

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Jeff lemme spare you the hassle of POEing

So after rereading the whole thread these are my reads:

1. Jeffatron - had Haza as his main target for the entirety of d1, all of their interactions point towards them not being aligned with each other.

2. Undeniable - town on play as well as the first guy to make a move on Haza d1 in case anybody still needed to make sure

4. Odo - has been the main driving force behind the Mitch wagon but for reasons that made sense. Agreed with Haza, Mitch and Brutus being good directions for d1. Magic has been doubting his d1 play for whatever that's worth. "Turns out I'm pretty good at this game" post after Mitch was "caught lying" about his role looks like a guy who legit thought he'd caught scum. Immediately annihilated Hazas claim. If Brutus is scum this will only strengthen this town read since I'm pretty sure Odo doesn't soft bus two of his teammates d1.

6. V.Sky - posts seem uncharacteristically chummy and reasonable, makes me think something's up. However her interactions with Haza make it pretty much impossible for them to be aligned.

7. Ace Dalton - first post said Haza and Brutus are probably our best choices but wasn't convinced on either. Then later gave Haza and Brutus as town reads towards the end of d1. Somehow his vote on Mitch was the one Haza took the most issue with and then Haza tried to shade Ace for arriving just in time to hammer Mitch. Also some shade by Haza early d2, likely not aligned. Probably the weakest town read out of these, barely qualifies as such.

8. NotBrutus - Haza pretty much ignored Brutus until we asked him for a read and then gave a weird "Brutus has altered his meta recently" read that made no sense. Interactions with Haza have been basically non-existant throughout. Shaded Hazas claim only after Odo and Jeff in particular had already smashed it to bits so no points there. Immediately ran with Hazas accusations of me killing Magic, somehow I doubt that he on his own would be able to decipher what Haza was talking about in less than two minutes, I think it's more likely that he knew from their QT that their shot on me had failed and they defaulted to thinking that I'm the BP SK. I'm pretty convinced he's scum at this stage and would encourage the vig to pay him a visit.

10. Rugrat - General demeanor seems more like town Rugrat, as scum he tends to get involved earlier than he did here I think. Other than that, went from "I'm hesitant to lynch Mitch" from "I'm probably gonna lynch Mitch" within 6 minutes, back to "I'm probably gonna hold off from voting for now" 5 minutes after that. Called bullshit on Hazas claim early on but notably voted him a couple posts later when people agreed that the claim was fake. Ultimately not enough to really lean to either side.

11. Big Man - First post sees him take Hazas and Brutus' side. Weirdly, when Haza dissected the later part of the Mitch wagon, he quoted Big Mans vote and said that "they" (scum) must have been getting desperate to vote Mitch off, yet when asked by Sky, Haza said that he sussed Sky, Rugrat and Ace, but very notably not Big Man. Asks Haza about that dissection post but in what I perceive to be a chummy tone. Could very well be aligned with Haza.

12. Mr.Tweetums - not scum for reasons already established, will claim tomorrow

13. Shawn - not aligned with Haza off of d1 interaction. Not the most present poster but his reads list pretty much mirrors mine once again, pointing towards similar frames of mind and therefore alignments.

14. Doddsy - spends his first couple posts mainly defending Haza, which needless to say looks bad in hindsight. Wanted to lynch Brutus over Mitch when Mitch was one vote away from what we thought would be the hammer. Both those things cancel each other out but I think people said he likes to bus quite a bit, so even if Brutus flips scum I could see Doddsy being scum as well.

15. PHEN0M - votes Brutus first post in, therefore very likely town if Brutus is scum. Also voted Haza to draw the claim so very likely town even if Brutus is town. Classic PHEN0M, very few posts but enough to warrant a town read.

The main thing to take away here is that imho Brutus should be killed or lynched ASAP because his flip is gonna give us a ton of information. I'm with Odo in that I think the starting split is most likely 11/3/1 or 11/4 or maybe even 10/3/1/1, especially seeing how packed with roles Haza was. I expect the rest of the scum team to be about equally powerful.

All I can say is if we have a vig they shouldn't shoot me, I'm not the SK and I will claim without pressure tomorrow.

These were my reads the night before Brutus flipped so you may as well disregard the reads that rely on Brutus flipping scum, other than that the above list shows why it's extremely unlikely for a number of players to be aligned with Haza, most notably you, Odo, Sky, Smark and me. That oughta narrow down your POE quite a bit.
 

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You have basically pushed virtually everyone as scum in the last few hours lmao

Part of leading if thats what you call this is being resolute in your PoE.

For example, it doesnt make any logical sense for Tweet to be anything other than what he said he is. It doesnt make sense to think I was there discussing a claim with Haza in the QT (cause thats clearly what he was doing when he said he was talking to Barry lol) and have him come out with what he came out with

And I dont get why youre acting so certain around Ace when from what I can see, you arent bringing up any points around him, youre just kinda listing it as given?

I'm more talking thing out, I'm not pushing anyone in particular yet as, much like everyone else at this stage, I'm unsure. I've been counter pointed on some of these thoughts. I see 0 issue with what I'm doing. This isn't day phase.

And have I acted so certain on Ace? He's in my final POE list of who I would lynch. I don't have a strong read on him either way, I suppose I could look into it further.

Ace flipping scum also essentially fully clears you I think, which would be great for my mental health.
 

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I was going to use that tarot card on Shawn but now it seems like a trap for me to get lynched if he does get a town positive.
 

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Now the thing is the way you've been playing this night phase makes me think you clearly have an agenda and are trying to pull all kinds of levers to nudge people towards a mislynch direction tomorrow. Hence why I'm asking myself if Haza and you just agreed to bus each other to death.
 

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Jeff lemme spare you the hassle of POEing



These were my reads the night before Brutus flipped so you may as well disregard the reads that rely on Brutus flipping scum, other than that the above list shows why it's extremely unlikely for a number of players to be aligned with Haza, most notably you, Odo, Sky, Smark and me. That oughta narrow down your POE quite a bit.

:WOW
 

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Now the thing is the way you've been playing this night phase makes me think you clearly have an agenda and are trying to pull all kinds of levers to nudge people towards a mislynch direction tomorrow. Hence why I'm asking myself if Haza and you just agreed to bus each other to death.
That's what I'm known for. Pulling strings at night. I definitely don't have history of just disappearing during nights when I'm scum.
 

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if hes a serial killer, he will be investigation immune in all likelihood

Put it this way, I wouldnt trust the result, regardless of what you get at this stage of the game
 

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This may sound Blue but I honestly don't think we need the cop result to POE this game out. I don't trust Big Man, he said he'd catch up but do you see him around?
 

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Don't protect me. Let scum kill me and then you guys can makeup your own reads about Shawn.
 

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That's what I'm known for. Pulling strings at night. I definitely don't have history of just disappearing during nights when I'm scum.

Hes not even talking to you :reigns3
 

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That's what I'm known for. Pulling strings at night. I definitely don't have history of just disappearing during nights when I'm scum.
That post was directed at Jeff, not at you Smark budday :hug:
 
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