Evolution The.Last.Woman.Standing...

[Jay-Ashley]

Will these ladies be allowed to push the limits for the entire women's division? Maybe, but I doubt it. In all reality, if Charlotte and Becky put everything they got into this match it could be very good, but since Nikki and Ronda are main eventing, I doubt it. The same goes for Shayna and Kairi and Io and Toni.

Will there be blood? Again maybe, but doubt it.

Will Becky retain? Sure why not. If it means she can be Face and Flair be a Heel then I am all for it, but if the story continues with Becky a tweener, anti-hero, whatever she is then I honestly don't care.

What do you guys think? This match will be good, but I think they messed a lot of the story up, but what do I know, I am just a smark.

 

[Redboy123@]

Becky's current character is evidently great. She needs to start embracing the crowd an go up against a heel. She can be a anti hero, tweener or whatever bullshit name they call a badass face.

As for Charlotte. She needs to turn heel.

 

[Tyler2]

Becky will win like Ciampa or Cena maybe even HHH vs HBK

 

[Doxo]

Realistically, Charlotte will win because every story needs a "happy" ending and she's the "hero"

Though Becky SHOULD destroy her. Becky is without a doubt the best this in WWE right now across all brands, and if WWE really want a woman WM main event, it isn't Rousey Flair, it's Rousey Lynch

 

[Grievous 3D]

Alright calm down on how sexy these women are because I am getting sort of energized.

These Women need the Legendary anaconda long as the Great Wall of China.

(To myself) Easy Big Fella, Easy Big Guy, Easy...

HA!

Stop. You are becoming Grievous the III, and we don't need another one of him around here.

Hey...NO ONE is like me...I'm one of a kind...

Mainly because I'm a depraved pervert...but
still...One of a Kind.

Will these ladies be allowed to push the limits for the entire women's division? Maybe, but I doubt it. In all reality, if Charlotte and Becky put everything they got into this match it could be very good, but since Nikki and Ronda are main eventing, I doubt it. The same goes for Shayna and Kairi and Io and Toni.

Will there be blood? Again maybe, but doubt it.

Will Becky retain? Sure why not. If it means she can be Face and Flair be a Heel then I am all for it, but if the story continues with Becky a tweener, anti-hero, whatever she is then I honestly don't care.

What do you guys think? This match will be good, but I think they messed a lot of the story up, but what do I know, I am just a smark.

So you think they will be told to "hold back" during the match?

I actually think the story is fine...its kept the focus & spotlight
on Becky & allowed her to look competent & aggressive.

Becky's current character is evidently great. She needs to start embracing the crowd an go up against a heel. She can be a anti hero, tweener or whatever bullshit name they call a badass face.

As for Charlotte. She needs to turn heel.

Yes...

& Yes...

Realistically, Charlotte will win because every story needs a "happy" ending and she's the "hero"

Yeah...you have to love those "forced narratives" in the WWE...

"You guys are suppose to be cheering this performer!"

"We don't want to! Boo!"

"Okay...Kevin...turn their volume down."

Though Becky SHOULD destroy her. Becky is without a doubt the best this in WWE right now across all brands, and if WWE really want a woman WM main event, it isn't Rousey Flair, it's Rousey Lynch

Destroy is a strong word...these women are too even for one to just destroy the other.

Becky is the best element of the WWE at the moment...but that doesn't mean the WWE
will care. Like we know...they have their own "narrative" & it doesn't really matter what
the fans want.

and if WWE really want a woman WM main event, it isn't Rousey Flair, it's Rousey Lynch

Yeah...No.

I mean Ronda vs. Becky will be an awesome match...
& we may possibly be seeing it at Survivor Series this
year...but Charlotte is the Alpha Female of the WWE...
just on a sheer physical & athletic ability...and Ronda
vs. Charlotte is THE money match...and everyone has
known that since Ronda first signed & walked out to
point at a sign.

I mean...Ronda vs. Asuka COULD have been the
money match...but Asuka is Japanese...so she was
ruined quicker than a wedding cake being fed to pigs.

 

[Jay-Ashley]

Hey...NO ONE is like me...I'm one of a kind...Mainly because I'm a depraved pervert...but still...One of a Kind.

So you think they will be told to "hold back" during the match?

I actually think the story is fine...its kept the focus & spotlight on Becky & allowed her to look competent & aggressive.

I mean Ronda vs. Becky will be an awesome match...& we may possibly be seeing it at Survivor Series this year...but Charlotte is the Alpha Female of the WWE...just on a sheer physical & athletic ability...and Ronda vs. Charlotte is THE money match...and everyone has known that since Ronda first signed & walked out to point at a sign.

I mean...Ronda vs. Asuka COULD have been the money match...but Asuka is Japanese...so she was ruined quicker than a wedding cake being fed to pigs.

You can always get replaced...

Yes, I truly think they will because the spotlight is on Ronda and Nikki, and no one can outshine them.

The story is fine and I don't mind it, it is how it is being told that bugs me. Becky should be a face, which she can still be badass as despite what WWE thinks, and Charlotte should be the heel because again she is a damn Flair for the love of God, and she should be envious of Becky now. This whole Charlotte is still the good guy, and Becky should be the Tweener/Heel is stupid. Again, I am the only person who thinks this, so who cares.

Ronda vs Becky won't be a good match, I am sorry to say. I could list some reasons, but why bother, right.

Ronda vs Asuka like Becky sounds good on paper, but wouldn't be that great in the actual product, you know.

 

[Grievous 3D]

You can always get replaced...

Never!

Grievous is Uber-Pervert #1 Special Fun Times!

Yes, I truly think they will because the spotlight is on Ronda and Nikki, and no one can outshine them.

Its funny because I suggested the men's roster is told to "tone down"
their matches as to not outshine certain performers...but when I made
that suggestion I was called a blueberry.

Apparently every person is told to go out there & have the best possible
match they can.

The story is fine and I don't mind it, it is how it is being told that bugs me. Becky should be a face, which she can still be badass as despite what WWE thinks, and Charlotte should be the heel because again she is a damn Flair for the love of God, and she should be envious of Becky now. This whole Charlotte is still the good guy, and Becky should be the Tweener/Heel is stupid. Again, I am the only person who thinks this, so who cares.

Honestly...I agree with you...

BUT...

I've enjoyed the feud regardless...
I mean you take what you can get
& I'm just happy this feud happened
in the first place.

Who knows? maybe they will book a
"double turn" at Evolution?

I don't really care...as long as the match
is as good as it can be.

Ronda vs Becky won't be a good match, I am sorry to say. I could list some reasons, but why bother, right.

Okay...

Ronda vs Asuka like Becky sounds good on paper, but wouldn't be that great in the actual product, you know.

Because it would be taking place in the WWE
& not Shimmer or some indie promotion?

 

[Jay-Ashley]

Never! Grievous is Uber Pervert #1 Special Fun Times!

It is funny because I suggested the men's roster is told to "tone down" their matches as to not outshine certain performers...but when I made that suggestion I was called a blueberry. Apparently, every person is told to go out there & have the best possible match they can.

Honestly...I agree with you...BUT...I've enjoyed the feud regardless...I mean you take what you can get & I'm just happy this feud happened in the first place. Who knows? maybe they will book a "double turn" at Evolution? I don't really care...as long as the match is as good as it can be.

Okay...Because it would be taking place in the WWE & not Shimmer or some indie promotion?

You know Uber means Over/Across, right?

Maybe I am a blueberry as well, but generally, I do believe certain people are told to tone down to make WWE's product, like wrestlers, look legit and better than grassroots. The women who came into WWE from Japan and Europe and The Indies are better performers than WWE's, in my opinion. As I said, I highly doubt that especially to for the wrestlers who aren't WWE products.

I mean, that is fine and dandy and again, I am the only person who has a problem with it because your "heel" is getting cheered, and your "face" is getting booed. It is so obvious, but WWE is ignoring it and it annoys me. A double turn could work, but it has missed its mark of impact to me at least. I mean, if the match is good and the story it tells is good then sure I will be "okay" with it.

Yeah, sure that is why because I am an idiot for thinking that WWE isn't that great. Honestly, it is because everyone who watches WWE knows what Ronda can do and her getting worked over by "fakes" wouldn't sit well. Remember when Alexa and Ronda had their match and how much people complain? There you go.

 

[Grievous 3D]

You know Uber means Over/Across, right?

Wait...I can fix that.

There we go...

Maybe I am a blueberry as well, but generally, I do believe certain people are told to tone down to make WWE's product, like wrestlers, look legit and better than grassroots. The women who came into WWE from Japan and Europe and The Indies are better performers than WWE's, in my opinion. As I said, I highly doubt that especially to for the wrestlers who aren't WWE products.

I mean, that is fine and dandy and again, I am the only person who has a problem with it because your "heel" is getting cheered, and your "face" is getting booed. It is so obvious, but WWE is ignoring it and it annoys me. A double turn could work, but it has missed its mark of impact to me at least. I mean, if the match is good and the story it tells is good then sure I will be "okay" with it.

Yeah, sure that is why because I am an idiot for thinking that WWE isn't that great. Honestly, it is because everyone who watches WWE knows what Ronda can do and her getting worked over by "fakes" wouldn't sit well. Remember when Alexa and Ronda had their match and how much people complain? There you go.

Hey man...if you prefer the indies to the WWE...then that's cool...
you do you. I don't think any less of you...and the same goes for
everyone else.

Everyone can like different stuff...

I mean just look at Pornhub...

:thumbsup:

The Ronda/Alexa match at Hell in A Cell was an embarrassment in
my opinion...but the WWE seem so fixated on pushing Alexa as
this dominant force...even though she doesn't have the size or skill
for that kind of push. No wonder the rumors of her sleeping around
with certain WWE staff members have started up. I mean when you
step back & look at the women she's defeated & matches she's won...
it makes no logical sense.

I mean we don't have Bo Dallas defeating Lashley & Strowman...
because no one is buying that...yet for some reason fans are so
accepting of someone Alexa's size dominating women far more
skilled & larger than her.

I know wrestling is "fake" but that isn't an excuse for logic to be
forgotten.

The "Face getting Booed, Heel getting Cheered" is just business
as usual for the WWE. Its been happening at the top of the RAW
card since Ive been back watching the product...and the list of
excuses for it is just pathetic & desperate...just like the WWE
themselves.

 

[Jay-Ashley]

Wait...I can fix that. There we go...

Hey man...if you prefer the indies to the WWE...then that's cool...you do you. I don't think any less of you...and the same goes for everyone else. Everyone can like different stuff...I mean just look at Pornhub...

The Ronda/Alexa match at Hell in A Cell was an embarrassment in my opinion...but the WWE seems so fixated on pushing Alexa as this dominant force...even though she doesn't have the size or skill for that kind of push. No wonder the rumors of her sleeping around with certain WWE staff members have started up. I mean when you step back & look at the women she's defeated & matches she's won...it makes no logical sense.

I mean we don't have Bo Dallas defeating Lashley & Strowman...because no one is buying that...yet for some reason, fans are so accepting of someone Alexa's size dominating women far more skilled & larger than her.

I know wrestling is "fake" but that isn't an excuse for logic to be forgotten.

The "Face getting Booed, Heel getting Cheered" is just business as usual for the WWE. Its been happening at the top of the RAW card since I've been back watching the product...and the list of excuses for it is just pathetic & desperate...just like the WWE themselves.

Lol.

A porn reference? I should have expected that. I do prefer a lot of companies over WWE, but guess what most people watch? That's right WWE. So in order for me to even have a conversation, I have to watch WWE as it is the only thing that gets talked about and when you talk about other promotions, well I won't go there, but you get the point. Also, WWE has really great talent, but they just fuck them over because "Hahaha. Let's stick it to the Indies or whatever."

That wasn't the only problem the main problem, or at least the one I had, is that you have Ronda, who is a legit fighter, get worked over by a woman with no actual fighting skill and is way smaller and weaker than her. It doesn't make sense. Now, if you want to see a match where that idea works just go look up Shayna Baszler vs Io Shari in Stardom. Both women looked strong and Io looked like she could hold her own against Shayna, who is a legit fighter. That is how Ronda's matches should be handled but aren't. Actually, another one is Shayna Baszler vs Kairi Sane at NXT Takeover both women looked strong and both looked great. Again, I am just a madman screaming in the street.

My point exactly.

Honestly, the whole "Face gets booed, and Heel gets cheered" is all because of ECW and the Attitude Era, go ahead and hate me for saying that, but it is kind of true. The problem is WWE knows they can fix it, WWE knows what they can do, but since it does fit WWE's bill then fuck it why fix it or change it. As I said, the Becky and Charlotte thing is clear and easily readable that WWE is doing things wrong, but what is WWE doing. Dancing around going blah blah blah we can't hear you. Again, I just get annoyed when something is obvious and yet the person just ignores it.

 

[Grievous 3D]

A porn reference? I should have expected that.

Yep...

Actually, another one is Shayna Baszler vs Kairi Sane at NXT Takeover both women looked strong and both looked great.

Very true...

The best matches are those where both performers (or all
the performers) walk away from the match still looking capable
& competent.

That does happen a lot in NXT...but very rarely does it happen
on the main roster.

They seem to have this attitude that for one performer to look
good/strong...their opponent has to be completely buried.

I mean...just go back to the Alexa Bliss/Bayley feud...it was
embarrassing how poorly Bayley was booked & they may as well
have had Alexa use some earth moving equipment to publicly
bury her...& I personally believe Bayley will never recover from it.

I think the main issue is in-ring story telling...and most of the time
the women involved with the matches on the main don't have the
ability to get a story across.

Some do...Charlotte, Becky, Asuka, Sasha, Bayley, Ruby, Ember...
but most just look awkward & out of place in ring itself.

Plus there is also the possibility that those "behind the scenes"
just don't really care about the women's division and still see their
matches as filler or a "piss break" spot.

I mean the WWE can publicly push this "Women's Revolution" but
if they don't actually believe in it...then it doesn't mean anything.

I think those in charge just believe if the women get more screen &
match time it counts as a "revolution" but truthfully...it should be about
allowing the women a chance to put on the best matches...which is why
I get so pissed off when women like Alexa & Carmella are holding the
titles & having AWFUL pay per view matches.

It just makes the women look like a bunch of Divas again...and that's sad.

Again, I am just a madman screaming in the street.

And I know that feeling.

 

[Redboy123@]

Ric will screw Charlotte and align himself with Becky.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Ric will screw Charlotte and align himself with Becky.

No.

Just No.

 

[Redboy123@]

No.

Just No.

You just don't like old people.

 

[Grievous 3D]

You just don't like old people.

No...

I just don't like old has-beens hanging around the WWE...
and while Ric Flair is one of (if not the) greatest of all
time...he's has had enough time in the spotlight.

Let Charlotte stand on her own & create her own Legacy.