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LMFAO

"Uhhhh, huh...hey uuhhhh huh...Melina..huh. They tell me I'm top uuuuhhhh star huh huh and I can get as many rematches as I want huh"

Hey Uh Melina you know uuhhhhh whips are uhhhh not only welcome...they're allowed.
 

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Well, there is a definite connection between getting smashed in the head and brain damage..lol.
What Benoit did I think was more him being a little crazy...probably more of a chemical imbalance than anything to do with being hit in the head.
The point was then why aren't more wrestlers showing the symptoms he says there are. Maybe there was underlying conditions in Benoit's case (steroids, etc.).
 

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he protected benoit period
 
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Former WWE wrestler Chris Nowinski is ramping up his criticism of WWE for what he believes is an unsafe work environment for wrestlers. Nowinski says the McMahon family should be out of the wrestling business or subject to federal investigation.

Nowinski researches long-term brain damage to professional athletes, including NFL and NHL players. Nowinski studied Chris Benoit's brain after Benoit's death and discovered he had the brain of an 80-year-old man Alzheimer's. Nowinski says that's typical of athletes who accumulate brain, head, and neck damage while professional organizations keep pushing them to perform.

"The idea of going off the top of the cage into the ring may actually be as stupid as it looks," Nowinski said. "You cannot slow down the trauma to your brain. Your brain absorbs a ton of trauma. Even if it's not concust, it's a high level of trauma that didn't used to exist in the wrestling industry."

Nowinski is especially hard on WWE because they have more control over the "work environment" compared to professional sports organizations due to the scripted nature of WWE programming."

Chris supposedly did research on Chris' brain even after the autopsy, the feds released a press release stating that Chris had the brain of a 80 year old. From how I'm reading it, Chris is trying to seem like he actually went to length to study Benoit. It's the wrestlers choice most of the time to do big stunts, and with Chris being in the inside circle of the WWE, I'm sure he could have said that he didn't want to do the headbutts off the top rope. I may not be a Harvard graduate, nor am I a high school graduate, yet, but it sounds like Chris is just pissy that he lost his job and is trying to bring them down.
 

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Why is the federal government supposed to get involved. The wrestlers in the WWE are grown adults that can make their own decisions. If they do not think that their work conditions are fair, they are not forced to work there.

Let me just say that the Federal Government DOES NOT need to get involved here. They've already decided to dip their hands into just about EVERYTHING else out there and I don't want a more watered down, censored product.

All you socialists out there will disagree because you think the Gov should be responsible for everything, which it's not.

I'm not a socialist but it's been proven throughout history that unless there are regulations placed on an employer they will take advantage of their employees and care more about their bottom line than their employees safety/best interests.

I don't want the government to get involved at all, I would much rather have Vince McMahon give a shit about his guys but since that's not going to happen before hell freezes over we've got to go with the only feasable option presented and that's government interference.

That is very true, but what I'm trying to say is that if anything were to change, it must start from the ground up. Imagine if most wrestlers no longer want to take a suplex. The WWE can't just sign all those willing to and leave out all the good wrestlers right?

I don't think he's talking about taking a move, he's talking about taking the same move over and over again on your head 300 nights a year, plus unprotected chair shots and everything else. Many wrestlers in the past have stated something akin to an off season is needed because this is just too much.

Thats not the first time you bring up this topic, MS. When was it that you really care about someone's being or health status? lol.

I care about those who provide me with something. Pro wrestlers provide me with entertainment since I was 4 years old and I'm pretty sick and tired of watching bullshit PR stunt tribute shows and reading about the others who die unnecessarily.

As for the topic itself, I think that yes pro-wrestlers need lighter schedule. BUT no less staunts! im against this as it will reduce the excitement of this business and it will become just another 1960's style (oldschool) wrestling business with chops and bodyslams and closethlines over and over again with nothing that would be eye catching.
P.S: we will encourage that NERD on IWF to post more of his 1940's threads about wrestling and its history :shifty:

Again, they don't need to reduce the amount of stunts, just the frequency of them.

Why isn't Foley dead/diseased or a psycho yet..? There's hundreds of other wrestlers who have taken more shots to the head than Benoit. I really don't understand the correlation because there doesn't seem to be one.

In regards to Foley, well truth be told there are exceptions to every rule but Foley is also only 44 years old, there's still plenty of time for these effects to manifest themselves. And not to mention despite Foley's hardcore reputation aside from the Rumble match with the Rock I don't recall too many occasions where Foley took repeated blows to the head. Barbed wire won't give you brain damage.

And yes Benoit took more head bumps than Foley did. Benoit did that idiot head butt everytime he wrestled and if you watched him, Benoit protected the other guy, not himself. Shit even Harley Race who did the headbutt before Dynamite Kid and Benoit told them both not to do that move frequently as it caused severe spinal injuries and concussions. Not only that but Dynamite Kid is in a wheel chair and still nobody bothered to say "Hey, maybe we should stop doing this."

Well, there is a definite connection between getting smashed in the head and brain damage..lol.
What Benoit did I think was more him being a little crazy...probably more of a chemical imbalance than anything to do with being hit in the head.

Benoit had the brain of an 80 year old alzheimer's patient. All four lobes of his brain had been beaten to a pulp. On the night of the murders Benoit was, yes on steroids but had also consumed copious amounts of xanax, and hydrocodone I believe. Even with all that though I don't believe the reaction that did occur would've happened without Benoit's brain being in such miserable condition.

One thing you need to understand is that if Chris had've not killed himself and been put on trial the odds are that he would've been found not guilty due to mental incapacity. In the condition he was in, he wouldn't have known what he was doing.

Chris supposedly did research on Chris' brain even after the autopsy, the feds released a press release stating that Chris had the brain of a 80 year old. From how I'm reading it, Chris is trying to seem like he actually went to length to study Benoit. It's the wrestlers choice most of the time to do big stunts, and with Chris being in the inside circle of the WWE, I'm sure he could have said that he didn't want to do the headbutts off the top rope. I may not be a Harvard graduate, nor am I a high school graduate, yet, but it sounds like Chris is just pissy that he lost his job and is trying to bring them down.

Actually Nowinski asked Benoit's father to have the brain autopsy done. The analysis was performed by many doctors associated with Nowinski's SLI.

Also, I doubt that Nowinski is pissy about losing his job. He seems to be doing very well for himself at the moment and is not just targeting wrestling but football and other sports as well.
 

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That's exactly the reasoning I was trying to get someone to state. Benoit did the flying headbutt... so why not just ban that move or at least not use it as a signature move. Wouldn't that severely decrease wrestlers to being brain damage prone, since that seems to be the only significant correlation?