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[phantomgerald]

If anything's going to change, it's not going to be from top down. Change needs to start from the ground up. Small wrestling shows and promotions are usually more hardcore than what the WWE is doing, and the wrestlers that the WWE get are guys that go through that trauma even before they step foot into the WWE ring.

The relevant authorities should step in to set a basic requirement rule, like subjecting all professional wrestlers to a check up once a year, and if they are not fully fit, then they will be suspended (sort of like MMA fighters after a fight).

 

[Soulpower]

Small wrestling shows and promotions are usually more hardcore than what the WWE is doing, and the wrestlers that the WWE get are guys that go through that trauma even before they step foot into the WWE ring.

Although this is true, you have to remember that indy promotion usually run about a couple of shows per month, while WWE put on about a lot more shows (House shows, TV shows, and PPV's) so the WWE wrestlers are putting their health in jeopardy on a more consistent basis.

 

[the dark knight]

whoooooooooooo caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaares

let em kill theirselves, they know the risk

 

[Axis]

Why is the federal government supposed to get involved. The wrestlers in the WWE are grown adults that can make their own decisions. If they do not think that their work conditions are fair, they are not forced to work there.

 

[JurassicBonez]

I think Chris is on to something. But shutting down the copration is extreme. Having them work a lesser work schedule should be a start, but I don't think he's going to succeed in getting them shut down. I think that's why he's not going after most/all pro wrestling organizations. It's because WWE does more shows than anyone else, has their wrestlers work more than anyone else. Most the people that have left, you see something in an interview about their work rate. I know they are a billion dollar organization, but be real. I bet they'd have far less injuries, far less un happy wrestlers, etc. if they were to run a lighter schedule.

 

[Quintastic One]

The last time a similar argument like this happened, I personally said I demanded the federal government to jump in and force WWE and Vince McMahon to pick a side. Whether he is a sport or an entertainment industry. Because he's been picking and choosing what side he wants to get around regulations.

When the athletic commisssions want to impose sanctions on him, he says it's an entertainment industry that doesn't have to adhere to these policies.

When the actors guilds try to force McMahon to invest in unionized health care for his actors, which is what they would be under an entertainment program, he says its a sport. And dances around needing to give his wrestlers better health care.

So I will say it again. Force WWE to pick a side and let either the Commissions or the Actors Guilds run rampant over WWE and force them to have better regulations on the product. An ACTUAL drug system that suspends a wrestler for six months after the first offense like most sports do. And a lighter work schedule (easily accomplished through reinstating a brand split so that the roster can be split and work half the work load they currently do now).

I know I will probably get the same response as I did before with people largely calling my call to action idiocy. But it's the only way we can truly protect those who risk their lives to entertain us.

 

[gatesoftanhauser]

Let me just say that the Federal Government DOES NOT need to get involved here. They've already decided to dip their hands into just about EVERYTHING else out there and I don't want a more watered down, censored product.

All you socialists out there will disagree because you think the Gov should be responsible for everything, which it's not.

 

[phantomgerald]

Small wrestling shows and promotions are usually more hardcore than what the WWE is doing, and the wrestlers that the WWE get are guys that go through that trauma even before they step foot into the WWE ring.

Although this is true, you have to remember that indy promotion usually run about a couple of shows per month, while WWE put on about a lot more shows (House shows, TV shows, and PPV's) so the WWE wrestlers are putting their health in jeopardy on a more consistent basis.

That is very true, but what I'm trying to say is that if anything were to change, it must start from the ground up. Imagine if most wrestlers no longer want to take a suplex. The WWE can't just sign all those willing to and leave out all the good wrestlers right?

 

[Quintastic One]

Let me just say that the Federal Government DOES NOT need to get involved here. They've already decided to dip their hands into just about EVERYTHING else out there and I don't want a more watered down, censored product.

All you socialists out there will disagree because you think the Gov should be responsible for everything, which it's not.

You should know by now I am no socialist. But I'm sick of Vince McMahon being able to avoid any and all government regulations by just flip flopping what he wants to call his product on what day of the week.

 

[LKP]

The wwe guys need a lighter schedule for sure. Id say do a house show on the night before a raw or smackdown so thats a Sunday and Monday for both shows. Yeah do around the world tours now and again. But surely Vince has to take care of his wrestlers more than earning a few dollars at a live show. More they rest up a bit more fresh they are and less cmon injuries happen. Kurt Angle should be having a go just as much as chris is now. Angle should be in a wheelchair with what he has suffered. I can see chris's point of view but its a bit extreme.

 

[Wrestling Station]

Thats not the first time you bring up this topic, MS. When was it that you really care about someone's being or health status? lol.

As for the topic itself, I think that yes pro-wrestlers need lighter schedule. BUT no less staunts! im against this as it will reduce the excitement of this business and it will become just another 1960's style (oldschool) wrestling business with chops and bodyslams and closethlines over and over again with nothing that would be eye catching.
P.S: we will encourage that NERD on IWF to post more of his 1940's threads about wrestling and its history :shifty:

 

[NinoBrown]

I support Chris. He just ain't gettin any of my money.

I remember on PTI they had a guy come on talking about even the littlest hit in football can cause damage to one's brain later on. I've yet to hear anything of this matter but I'd hate to see any wrestler or athlete suffer through dementia after they retire.

 

[Great One]

Why isn't Foley dead/diseased or a psycho yet..? There's hundreds of other wrestlers who have taken more shots to the head than Benoit. I really don't understand the correlation because there doesn't seem to be one.

 

[noumenon]

Well, there is a definite connection between getting smashed in the head and brain damage..lol.
What Benoit did I think was more him being a little crazy...probably more of a chemical imbalance than anything to do with being hit in the head.

 

[Headfirst For Hardcore]

I doubt the gov't gets involved. Vince McMahon will fight it any way he can, and he does have enough reasons to keep things as they are. Maybe having a pension program for retired WWE guys, but that's as far as I can see it going. Wrestling is a money making business. People will always be doing crazy stuff to get a paycheck, whether it's bleeding, not taking any time off for an injury, or sleeping with Batista.