Stephanie Vaquer has left CMLL - Signed with WWE

[Comrade Khan]

I do think there's a middle ground too, n luchadors practicing the art of lucha teaming up makes sense.

I just don't like "oh new black is over let's all fantasy book him in the black faction" stuff

 

[Chris]

I think it depends, if they're just thrown together as a random pairing that's one thing. If they're friends behind the scenes and pitch it, very different.

Also funny bc TEW has a stable category labeled "gangs" since all the categories operate different lol

 

[Comrade Khan]

For the record, I actually think there are far more radical racist white gangs in this country. So I would disparage POC with thinking like that.

Usually the in charge group is the most racist yes. I'm sure the racists in Mexico hate white ppl for example

 

[Smart Marx]

Understood, appreciate the clarification

I just think in 2024 racial groupings really don't need to be a thing, especially when rosters are not 95% white

Fair enough. As long as I enjoy the groups themselves, I'm not gonna mind it, but I will if it keeps up this way.

Like I said in the first post, I do also want factions that aren't race-based to keep in the mix.

 

[Smart Marx]

I do think there's a middle ground too, n luchadors practicing the art of lucha teaming up makes sense.

I just don't like "oh new black is over let's all fantasy book him in the black faction" stuff

I feel this, too. Which is why I also mentioned culture.

I think Latinos who probably worked together in AAA or CMLL is different to they all have melaninated skin, make the next black faction.

 

[Smart Marx]

Usually the in charge group is the most racist yes. I'm sure the racists in Mexico hate white ppl for example

That's supposed to say wouldn't, but you figured that out I hope. And for sure. I bet they do. We don't give them the best reasons not to.

 

[Smart Marx]

I will say, though, as far as black factions go, I've seen at least two members of the Hurt Business upset they didn't get to continue their run.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I feel this, too. Which is why I also mentioned culture.

I think Latinos who probably worked together in AAA or CMLL is different to they all have melaninated skin, make the next black faction.

Yeah for the culture groups make sense. Really it's all about the setup too.

And fwiw, regardless of this discussion, I don't think it's that bad or blatant . I still think Bianca n Jade make 0 sense together beyond the colour of their skin though, for example. On the flip side mb they themselves like a group of empowered jacked black ladies idk!

 

[Chris]

I will say, though, as far as black factions go, I've seen at least two members of the Hurt Business upset they didn't get to continue their run.

That's a really a good example of both sides bc they pitched the group and members so obviously they wanted the dynamic they did, but they would also get very annoyed when people kept fantasy booking every black dude to join them lmao

 

[Comrade Khan]

I will say, though, as far as black factions go, I've seen at least two members of the Hurt Business upset they didn't get to continue their run.

Well those ppl also don't have a job rn right? Mvp is also very opinionated I'll leave you at that

 

[Smart Marx]

I think it depends, if they're just thrown together as a random pairing that's one thing. If they're friends behind the scenes and pitch it, very different.

Also funny bc TEW has a stable category labeled "gangs" since all the categories operate different lol

LWO was very much Eddie's idea to get more screen time and better stories for him and his fellow Luchadors.

I imagine Rey was also the one who wanted to honor Eddie's legacy.

 

[Chris]

Well those ppl also don't have a job rn right? Mvp is also very opinionated I'll leave you at that

MVP still has a job surprisingly but we don't need to get into that in this thread lol

 

[Comrade Khan]

I think it's also fair to say ppl like me are always apprehensive because of the blatantly racist shit Vince would pull ,so we need to be proven wrong to a degree lol

 

[Comrade Khan]

MVP still has a job surprisingly but we don't need to get into that in this thread lol

Oh OK, I just seen he was bitchin a lot lately so assumed he was let go or without creative plans. My bad!

 

[Chris]

Oh OK, I just seen he was bitchin a lot lately so assumed he was let go or without creative plans. My bad!

He outright accused HHH of racism, but not for any reasons evennamed here, mostly bc he's off screen IMO. So I'm as shocked as anyone too