SRS: We've learned of a notable WWE talent that has asked for their release recently.

[Y2Jayne]

Best member of the UE, AEW could really use him.

 

[Cwalker]

Let him go…

Love the guy but they really wouldn’t be losing much

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Let him go…

Love the guy but they really wouldn’t be losing much

I like the top part of this post.

Used right he could be a decent midcard to upper midcard guy tbh

 

[Cwalker]

I like the top part of this post.

Used right he could be a decent midcard to upper midcard guy tbh

Dude can go in the ring

But he’s a charisma black hole and a below average promo. Being in UE and having Bivens do all the talking helped masked that for him.

 

[Chris]

Also he signed an extension bc of the Diamond Mine pitch which then changed bc some folks got fired...one of which was his wife

Come on Vince free my dude lmao

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Dude can go in the ring

But he’s a charisma black hole and a below average promo. Being in UE and having Bivens do all the talking helped masked that for him.

Oh I can agree he ain’t the best with that. Which is why it’s lucky if he goes to AEW when he can, be got his boys he can join back with

 

[Lethal]

I always like the commentary about “he isn’t used right” whenever a release is discussed. I heavily disagree. Tag titles, NA title, CW title, huge part of TUE and blooding the Creeds is a pretty nifty resume if I say so myself. Obvious verbal limitations but a damn good asset to have in any company.

That said, if he wants to go - let him go. He’s served his purpose and is a consummate professional. As Jeff said, they fire people who want to stay (Persia, Lumis) but won’t grant releases to those who want out. Complex workings.

 

[Canadian Dragon]

He wasnt used right at all though, he re-upped because they made him promises about diamond mine n then fired them all including his wife. They said they have him elevate the cw title then killed the title. N now hes doing nothing. Him winning titles w UE under his old contract is irrelevant

 

[Cwalker]

Not everyone is a main eventer and he doesn’t fit the mold of the new NXT. But let’s not act like they didn’t treat him well.

Like I said, let him go cause he’s not the “guy”, especially solo. But let’s not act like his time in NXT hasn’t been a success.

 

[Lethal]

He wasnt used right at all though, he re-upped because they made him promises about diamond mine n then fired them all including his wife. They said they have him elevate the cw title then killed the title. N now hes doing nothing. Him winning titles w UE under his old contract is irrelevant

Fair, but riddle me this - what does 'used right' actually mean? Cause I know with Black, Lee etc it was obvious, but generally curious. I mean, we're going to agree to disagree here but that's all sweet man.

I mean hey, they came to some form of agreement with Ali (but I'm worried it's a cynical tow along before burial). Stranger things have happened.

 

[Canadian Dragon]

They didnt treat him well on this latest contract, they lied about everything they promised him. And again , what he did under black n gold n irrelevant to THIS contract. Im not sure whats so hard to understand or how you can possibly think he was treated and used well under 2.0. Put the kool aid down, no one in this thread said he should be a main eventer so stop using this as a defence

 

[Canadian Dragon]

Fair, but riddle me this - what does 'used right' actually mean? Cause I know with Black, Lee etc it was obvious, but generally curious. I mean, we're going to agree to disagree here but that's all sweet man.

I mean hey, they came to some form of agreement with Ali (but I'm worried it's a cynical tow along before burial). Stranger things have happened.

Not being im catering for weeks, not having your entire stable u signed up for cancelled . U gonna tell me they using him proper with a straight face? U watch 2.0 so please...be honest

 

[Canadian Dragon]

Tl dr they promised him a lot to keep him away from aew then did not deliver n even actively fucked his angles over. Again, theres no reason to defend WWE here because you dont rate the guy

 

[Lethal]

Not being im catering for weeks, not having your entire stable u signed up for cancelled . U gonna tell me they using him proper with a straight face? U watch 2.0 so please...be honest

Thank you. Yeah, i watch 2.0. I viewed him as the veteran old head guiding the new squad. I didn't even take notice of the potential members tbf, I just saw what was on TV. Hachiman never got the opportunity to do anything. Creeds are sensational. Ivy Nile has a tremendous future. In that sense I view it as someone reliable on-screen to guide this group into the future.

I'd also argue that the CW title had outstayed its welcome (like a lot of titles in WWE tbf) so can understand the whole storyline and he made Carmelo look a million bucks in doing so.

 

[Lethal]

Tl dr they promised him a lot to keep him away from aew then did not deliver n even actively fucked his angles over. Again, theres no reason to defend WWE here because you dont rate the guy

I hope this one isn't at me man. 1) I'm not defending anything and 2) I rate him highly.