Seth MacFarlane Mafia Game Thread

[RDK]

Well my issue is you should probably realize that offering himself up for a lynch like that isn't something he's likely to do as scum, because he'd have a team that wants to make use of the other roles he'd most certainly possess. I'm not buying your reasons for keeping him in your sights at all and that whole slip thing you keep riding is completely dismissable since to my knowledge this is the first game Lethal has ever hosted and thus setup spec should be avoided at all costs.

Which is why I played devils advocate and tried to lean a little on Magics discussion regarding Brutus in Bond.

I didnt know it was Lethals first game so that is a fair point. Thoughts on him flat out refusing to char claim in a game with char claiming? Will you be expecting him to do this later or are you cool with it?

 

[Doddsy]

Like I said I'm unhappy with the way Odo immediately voiced his suspicions of PHEN0M, I would've loved to see him do a couple more posts under no outside influence.

Like Odo went and shaded PHEN0M and Jeff with the "keep feigning indifference" thing and went "do not like" on one of Barrys posts, if nothing more comes of this I just see it as nudging and that would indeed be scummy. Main reason I'm not interested on Odo rn is because he seems to be seeing the same thing as me wrt PHEN0M.

I do agree with the Odo discussion, I've not much cared for some of the stuff he's been doing so far myself. He is obviously hiding a second part of his role as well, based on his unwillingness to demonstrate the double vote. Unless he has later on than this, obviously.

Town PHEN0M likes to wallow in his inactivity and relative indifference, whereas Scum PHEN0M likes to make some early posts that look like playing the game but upon further inspection are just window dressing. Sensible window dressing that doesn't actually look scummy in nature but doesn't really mean much or advance the game either. And before you say this isn't true, Magic uses this same tell against you and called you being scum d1 in some recent game on WF, would have to look up which one it was.

Which read did he make that has prompted this?

Odo being a double voter should give pause, to be fair.

The dumbass in me is thinking if he's scum, the hated town makes sense, and another part of me is thinking if he's town, there's likely to be an executioner somewhere... maybe.

That's the dumbass in me speaking.

A double voter shouldn't give anyone pause tbh, it's a role that is 50/50. View it as indifferent.

I've seen your last two games as town. As town you enter the thread at your convenience, drop a vote that makes sense on someone with no explanation and sit back. You comment on more or less random things as you see fit. Here, your entrance has been to make two of the most obvious town leans one could give, which is something you probably wouldn't bother doing as town since it's so obvious. As scum you make those kinds of posts to feign looking towny (making reads, making sure to look reasonable) which are things you just don't worry about as town.

That's my take on things, like I said I'm not pushing this to hell and back this time around because last game my attempts to catch scum d1 backfired hard.

And no, I don't think a guy who played this game for over 10 years and self-admittedly puts priority on more important things than Mafia makes a conscious effort to change up his meta.

I disagree, it's not that hard to take the feedback you've been given and apply it, especially something as easy to fix as that

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Vote: Doddsy

Lynch all former scum.

 

[RDK]

I do agree with the Odo discussion, I've not much cared for some of the stuff he's been doing so far myself. He is obviously hiding a second part of his role as well, based on his unwillingness to demonstrate the double vote. Unless he has later on than this, obviously.

Yeah this point is null because he voted Jeff and there hasnt been a vote count.

 

[CraigPelton]

Hello friends, good to be back with you all..........let's navigate this LethalWeapon game together and try not to become frustrated by any new host errors so we can focus on our shared goal in catching as well as killing all non-town players.

Disappointed Magic isn't in this game but perhaps he will make a late cameo.

I will try to catch up and post thoughts before my night kicks off as the weekend has been known to get away from me.

 

[NotBrutus]

Do you know your character?

Suspicious

 

[CraigPelton]

Lynching Sky d1 is like hitting the piñata before they've even loaded the candy into it. Assuming she's scum of course.

 

[Doddsy]

Yeah no, Tweet's assessment makes sense. Self-meta assessment as WIFOM is one of the scummiest things you can do in my book btw

Unvote
Vote PHEN0M

What's scummy in being aware of your meta?

Never trust Doddsy imo

Rude

Glad to hear it.

This is an odd reaction to being sussed. No questions about why he's reading you or anything?

Certainly not convinced Phenom is town based on his claim but I'm with Odo in that my biggest scumread so far is Jeff.

Feels like he's trying too hard to lead town and I've also noticed him "hedging his bets" a fair few times - in the sense that he'll say something and follow it up with an "I may be wrong about this" type ending to his posts.

This is often a scumtell by my experience with scum players subconsciously nervous to over-invest in a "fake" read.

Tbph I'm not a big fan of Sky's claim post as his implication that Lethal may be spiting him by giving him a dodgy role/flavour combo doesn't feel good.

I'm still very open to Sky + OMB being joint-maf based on OMB's interactions with the Sky wagon.

I quite like this post from Ace, fairly happy keeping him in the town camp so far

FWIW I think the reasons we wagoned Sky were good enough, that weird town read on Doddsy and unconvincing reads list felt shady. BG doesn't have to be alignment indicative but as I said, now that the role is outed she's gotta use it in a towny fashion or at least pretend to do so.

I recently reread Whodunnit Mafia and Jeff also did that taking both sides of the argument thing in that game and he was town. Not saying it has to be that way here too, but I'm not really seeing the scum in him rn. Null to me.

I do agree with this assessment on the Sky wagon, the wagon was fine. Here's hoping she is town because she read me town for no reason which is a dead give away for her partners

Feel pretty good about Tweet, Odo and Banez being town

Why Odo?

I'll play along.

Unvote
Vote Jeff

Full disclosure I'm gonna be out of state all weekend for a wedding, but I'll check in as often as I can.

Don't much care for this vote. Is someone saying, trust me on this all you need to vote someone?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

What's scummy in being aware of your meta?


Rude


This is an odd reaction to being sussed. No questions about why he's reading you or anything?


I quite like this post from Ace, fairly happy keeping him in the town camp so far


I do agree with this assessment on the Sky wagon, the wagon was fine. Here's hoping she is town because she read me town for no reason which is a dead give away for her partners


Why Odo?


Don't much care for this vote. Is someone saying, trust me on this all you need to vote someone?

Nah, I'd rather keep it that way.

 

[Doddsy]

I still don't really get why people are hoping on here for shit reasons (or none at all apparently from odo, who literally just spent last game fucking you all in the ass). But sure, what the fuck ever.

I'm Stewie Griffon, x-shit commuter. I used to be an evil genius but apparently mellowed out and have time traveling adventures with brian. Can time travel out of the game at night

Now id like odo n everyone other than haza to explain this dumbass shit

Frustration here seems genuine, and is backed obviously by the case genuinely being non existent as far as I can tell. I don't know if I'd say that's alignment indicative fully as scum would be pissed as well, but I think Jeffa's town

I think one of the claims we have heard is fake for raisons

I wouldnt be opposed to lynching you.

Is this a counter claim?

Do not trust the claim

I hope Odo is scum and Jeffa is town because this would go down in history as the laziest mislynch of all time


That said, I've no faith Odo is town right now, but plenty of suspicion he is scum

 

[RDK]

Why Odo?

I dont think he would commit to a plan this early as scum. I think he would be more likely to assess and figure things out as the game plays forward because he is capable of adjusting on the fly. He has committed to doing "something useful tomorrow" which I dont think he would risk as scum.

 

[Doddsy]

I dont think he would commit to a plan this early as scum. I think he would be more likely to assess and figure things out as the game plays forward because he is capable of adjusting on the fly. He has committed to doing "something useful tomorrow" which I dont think he would risk as scum.

I highly disagree with this statement.

Here are 2 quotes from the scum QT last game

Ill prob lay fairly low for tonight and play tomorrow

btw you have my express permission to execute as soon as someone gets 4 votes

depriving town of a longer day 1 is good, and means theres less burden to keep me around

Both demonstrating how he would prefer to limit day one and his interactions within it, which is exactly what he is doing right now. His cases he's pushed are token cases because he'd be pushed if he didn't do anything, he's provided absolutely no substance on anything so far

 

[RDK]

I highly disagree with this statement.

Here are 2 quotes from the scum QT last game




Both demonstrating how he would prefer to limit day one and his interactions within it, which is exactly what he is doing right now. His cases he's pushed are token cases because he'd be pushed if he didn't do anything, he's provided absolutely no substance on anything so far

You think he commits to a strong Jeff read and promised to doing something valuable tomorrow (I assume he meant usage related) if he couldnt deliver? Or you think he will deliver something useful to town while still being scum?

 

[Doddsy]

You think he commits to a strong Jeff read and promised to doing something valuable tomorrow (I assume he meant usage related) if he couldnt deliver? Or you think he will deliver something useful to town while still being scum?

His committment to the Jeff read was saying 'trust me on Jeff please' and 'I don't like the claim.' But yes, he would absolutely do that as scum. He can lead as scum, as he's demonstrated time and time again. He can look useful while leading town astray. As for the usage related he's a double voter I don't know what usage he'd have that'd be useful, I assume he was referring to being more active and taking more charge, but I certainly wouldn't let him take charge of anything at this junkture

 

[CraigPelton]

I dont trust Phenom

I dont trust Jeff either

Anyone else want some free leans?

I had both of these thoughts reading through the thread and found Odo posting what I was thinking so that's encouraging.

Banez did nobody strike you as scummy on the readthrough I assume you made that youre voting an inactive?

Bit harsh to call me an inactive when the game has just started.

OMB is definitely town.

Brutus likely town for asking who the mason partner is.

I've also been picking up what Tweet has been putting down this game so town lean on him.

Sky really fell apart under pressure and started voting quite erratically, almost felt like she was trying to play into a meta or perhaps preparing for her own flip to me. But she was also pushed by my scumspects so it's an interesting predicament. Perhaps there's been some bussing.

Not letting PHEN0M off the hook for the mason claim. We can put a pin in it for now.

I'm down to lynch Jeff today. He turned on PHEN0M rather quick there didn't he. Not sure there's anything else worth pursuing right now.

vote Jeff