SmackDown Live SDL January 15: picking up the slackdown edition

[Jimmy King]

Called it, I saw it conviently placed at ringside and thought it was pretty obvious

 

[Jimmy King]

Coast to cake

 

[Smart Marx]

I just want to know where this hard definition of brand split you're getting bc I feel like it's like everything else in wrestling history, WWE makes up the rules as they go. Where's this dictionary that says a brand split has to have separate everything, shit Corey graves ended it when he started appearing on both shows lmao like bro I'm fine with just saying we have different definitions of what constitutes a split bc it's definitely a grey area but you're acting like WWE has ever had a consistent definition when they've always been making up shit like Benoit moving to Raw bc of the loophole that you didnt have to challenge your brand when I just watched the 03 rumble and they acted like it was a set rule the winner challenged for their brand. Shits always been muddied, sometimes wrestlers would move through "trades" other times they'd just show up on the other show with no explanation, it's not that serious

I'm not saying there is a hard definition.

I'm saying for ME. There's no point in calling it a brand split if they share everything but performers who wrestle on the show. The reason you use the word brand is because they're supposed to feel different. If they at least locked in the rosters for 3 years then the roster could feel like a brand, but they switch the talent around every year anyway.

As for how WWE defines it, you can watch several of their docs where they suggest quite clearly the split came from the original idea to run run WCW versus WWF before they changed their mind to making Raw versus SmackDown.

We won't agree on this. No worries.

As for the WWE defined split, I'm pretty sure once SDL hits Fox, even the locked rosters will become flexible.

The women's titles being merged is already rumored. Has been before even the new tag straps were announced.

 

[Chris]

Alright cool, I've already said I get why you believe there's no brand split. Your main even argument was flat out wrong just fyi but no one watches that show so it's understandable. It's still a split to me until they start sharing more of the roster besides Cena (surprised you didnt bring that up bc it would have been a great point for your side too) and I feel like 90% of fans would still consider this a brand split but once again if you think it's already ended that's fine, I just don't know if I can deal with years of you saying "see guys I told you its ending" if it takes 3-4 years again like it did last time

 

[Smart Marx]

Alright cool, I've already said I get why you believe there's no brand split. Your main even argument was flat out wrong just fyi but no one watches that show so it's understandable. It's still a split to me until they start sharing more of the roster besides Cena (surprised you didnt bring that up bc it would have been a great point for your side too) and I feel like 90% of fans would still consider this a brand split but once again if you think it's already ended that's fine, I just don't know if I can deal with years of you saying "see guys I told you its ending" if it takes 3-4 years again like it did last time

If it takes the same amount time it did last time, I'm going to take the win. Because the end of PPV exclusives was the omen both times and I called it. It has to take longer for me to say I was wrong. The end of the PPVs was the start, then came the belts, then the occasional supers then the end. It was never a one-night thing. Even in the end. No end of split announcement was made. Unless I forgot it.

Nah, I still think most of the Main Event people mostly stick to that show. Just because Zack Ryder can be on Raw, doesn't mean he's there that often.

Shit, Even WCW had like 40 guys who never appeared on the main show. Only Saturday Night, WCW Pro or WorldWide. But that wasn't main argument, so I'll concede either way.

I don't think it'll take that long, though. It's coming. Soon.

Still, nothign to brag about. WWE already shows it couldn't care less since the McMahon 4 appear on both shows.

 

[Chris]

Bro I think I'm one of the few people that watch main event every week and other than the cruiserweight matches that they haven't done in months, it's all the raw superstars bc Revival has had more matches than anyone this year. Its them, the B Team, Tyler Breeze, Mojo, Jinder, Apollo, Titus and in all those cases the jobbers only started having main event matches when they were drafted to raw.

Who on main event do you not consider on Raw? Ryder is the only one that maybe has a case and I only remembered him bc he made a big deal about having his first match in raw forever. I don't care about your weird definition of a brand split but you're just arguing against facts (and honestly meaningless ones) at this point for no reason. Go look at the last few months of main event results and tell me who you'd consider not on Raw bc I doubt you can find 5 guys

 

[Smart Marx]

Bro I think I'm one of the few people that watch main event every week and other than the cruiserweight matches that they haven't done in months, it's all the raw superstars bc Revival has had more matches than anyone this year. Its them, the B Team, Tyler Breeze, Mojo, Jinder, Apollo, Titus and in all those cases the jobbers only started having main event matches when they were drafted to raw.

Who on main event do you not consider on Raw? Ryder is the only one that maybe has a case and I only remembered him bc he made a big deal about having his first match in raw forever. I don't care about your weird definition of a brand split but you're just arguing against facts (and honestly meaningless ones) at this point for no reason. Go look at the last few months of main event results and tell me who you'd consider not on Raw bc I doubt you can find 5 guys

I do consider them Raw, that's the point. They are Raw superstars. Main Event isn't a separate brand. But most of those guys barely appear on Raw. When was the last Breeze wrestled on Raw? Mojo? Apollo?

 

[Smart Marx]

I think you completely misunderstood my point and honestly we already conceded on the other stuff so no point in dwelling on this.

 

[Chris]

Oh shit my bad I misread your original post and thought you said main event was it's own brand bc they had a separate roster but you said wasn't I'd still argue they don't bc almost all those guys have appeared on Raw a few times, a lot of times matches will be repeated on Raw the week after main event in the case of tags and divas ones but its whatever. Also Apollo just had a IC title match and battle royal win but yeah my bad lmao

 

[Sabretooth]

Ok so for the Mandy/Jimmy segment, how's she gonna blackmail Jimmy when the photographer taking the picture was shown on television?

 

[Crippler]

The McMahon special

 

[Deezy]

Ok so for the Mandy/Jimmy segment, how's she gonna blackmail Jimmy when the photographer taking the picture was shown on television?

Reality stars don't remember a cameraman is following them constantly.

Kanye West was out side chasing paparazzi while cameramen were following them B.