Sami Zayn thinks he's a tough guy

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Society isn't what it was in the 1990's or even 10 years ago. There's a difference between saying it then when it was more accepted as an insult, than now. Not sure how you're missing that point.

Did you take that same stance when Gawker dug up that old tape on Hulk Hogan?

Even if you did, you're still hypocritical because your argument against the fan in your previous post was:

I didn't realize Canadian smurf had a lot of different meanings when it only has two legitimate definitions. He's homophobic for what he said. Don't try to defend him, because that's not a hill you want to die on.

That seems pretty cut and dry, man. You left yourself no wiggle room with that stance. Offending people was okay 10+ years ago, but it's not now? Says who? You?

Your previous post mentioned absolutely nothing about time period of word usages. That's you moving goalposts because you can't accept you've lost an argument, and doing exactly what I assumed you were doing the entire time when I asked you this question:

Or are you just here to cherry pick when it suits you most?

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Did you take that same stance when Gawker dug up that old tape on Hulk Hogan?

Even if you did, you're still hypocritical because your argument against the fan in your previous post was:



That seems pretty cut and dry, man. You left yourself no wiggle room with that stance. Offending people was okay 10+ years ago, but it's not now? Says who? You?

Your previous post mentioned absolutely nothing about time period of word usages. That's you moving goalposts because you can't accept you've lost an argument, and doing exactly what I assumed you were doing the entire time when I asked you this question:



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Being a closet racist and using a homphobic slur as an insult are far and away different scenarios. Hogan is still a racist for what he said, that doesn't mean he can't grow as a person and move past that, like he has.

Also most of society that has learned to accept people for who they are. Not just me, but society as a collective thought entity. That isn't moving the goalposts my dude. That's just you, once again, missing the point.

Also saying someone has "lost" an argument is such a dumb metric. It doesn't look kindly upon you if all you do is argue for the sake of argument instead of what you actually believe.
 
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Is this still going? :stephena2:

Sami confronted a fan, regardless of how he did it, yelling a word at him. I think we've exhausted the material on this one.
 

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I feel like an old man reminiscing on the good ole days :sj:
 
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More details about the confrontation:


We have some more information to pass along regarding Sami Zayn’s altercation with a fan who yelled a homophobic slur during a WWE house show. Zayn was ringside for a match between Bray Wyatt and Shinsuke Nakamura when the fan called him a “Canadian f****t,” which sparked a response from Zayn.

The man was then escorted from the arena. Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Zayn had cut a pro-Canada and anti-America promo before the match. This is what prompted the fan’s “Canadian f****t” comment. After Zayn confronted the fan for using the slur three times, the fan asked Zayn if he wanted to fight.

The fan used the slur again when referee Danilo Anfibio and security team member Keith Burgdoff came over to settle things down, and Zayn called him a “homophobic bitch,” before he was escorted from the arena.

So now we know the fan didn't use the slur in isolation and that it was in response to an anti-American promo with "Canadian" said in front of it. And now we know that the fan DID challenge Sami to fight and that Sami's response was to keep backing up and calling him a "homophobic bitch." Even though the context in which the word was said sounds more like the fan just hates Canada and was using the latter word as a generic insult (in the same way Sami was calling the fan a 'bitch' which is a very offensive term used to degrade females and could be spun to make Sami look sexist/misogynistic if anyone really wants to go down that road) because he needed something to say after the word 'Canadian.'

The more that we find out about this story the more weak minded and cowardly Sami looks. He comes across as a poorly programmed NPC with very few voice lines and no ability to fight.

This also brings up the issue that there are current wrestlers who the fans aren't intimidated by. Now I watched Baron Corbin's WWE Backstage interview the other day, and he was saying something along the lines of that when fans talk shit to him and when turns to look at them they put their heads down realizing they are fucking with the wrong dude. Well, maybe that's a sign WWE shouldn't be hiring twerps like Sami who looks like he got lost on his way to a comic book convention. I guarantee you no fan would ever challenge real men like Corbin and Lashley to a fight if they were in their face.
 
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I feel like some people would experience physical withdrawals like for drugs if they tried to stop using slurs
 

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So now we know the fan didn't use the slur in isolation and that it was in response to an anti-American promo with "Canadian" said in front of it. And now we know that the fan DID challenge Sami to fight and that Sami's response was to keep backing up and calling him a "homophobic bitch." Even though the context in which the word was said sounds more like the fan just hates Canada and was using the latter word as a generic insult (in the same way Sami was calling the fan a 'bitch' which is a very offensive term used to degrade females and could be spun to make Sami look sexist/misogynistic if anyone really wants to go down that road) because he needed something to say after the word 'Canadian.'

The more that we find out about this story the more weak minded and cowardly Sami looks. He comes across as a poorly programmed NPC with very few voice lines and no ability to fight.

This also brings up the issue that there are current wrestlers who the fans aren't intimidated by. Now I watched Baron Corbin's WWE Backstage interview the other day, and he was saying something along the lines of that when fans talk shit to him and when turns to look at them they put their heads down realizing they are fucking with the wrong dude. Well, maybe that's a sign WWE shouldn't be hiring twerps like Sami who looks like he got lost on his way to a comic book convention. I guarantee you no fan would ever challenge real men like Corbin and Lashley to a fight if they were in their face.


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Damn what a thread lol. Look I'm of the opinion that I hate snowflakes. It annoys me when people get offended by everything. If someone says "smurf" I think it's just funny. I certainly would never confront a fan about it in a legitimately angry way. I think that Sami is a pussy for getting so mad about it but whatever.

However it's also stupid that people still seem to think they can fight Sami. Go fuckin try lmao and see what happens.
 

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More details about the confrontation:




So now we know the fan didn't use the slur in isolation and that it was in response to an anti-American promo with "Canadian" said in front of it. And now we know that the fan DID challenge Sami to fight and that Sami's response was to keep backing up and calling him a "homophobic bitch." Even though the context in which the word was said sounds more like the fan just hates Canada and was using the latter word as a generic insult (in the same way Sami was calling the fan a 'bitch' which is a very offensive term used to degrade females and could be spun to make Sami look sexist/misogynistic if anyone really wants to go down that road) because he needed something to say after the word 'Canadian.'

The more that we find out about this story the more weak minded and cowardly Sami looks. He comes across as a poorly programmed NPC with very few voice lines and no ability to fight.

This also brings up the issue that there are current wrestlers who the fans aren't intimidated by. Now I watched Baron Corbin's WWE Backstage interview the other day, and he was saying something along the lines of that when fans talk shit to him and when turns to look at them they put their heads down realizing they are fucking with the wrong dude. Well, maybe that's a sign WWE shouldn't be hiring twerps like Sami who looks like he got lost on his way to a comic book convention. I guarantee you no fan would ever challenge real men like Corbin and Lashley to a fight if they were in their face.

Well that's just the problem with society in general isn't it? You only talk shit to people you think you're tougher than. What a joke. It's easy to insult someone you think you can handle but then someone bigger comes and kicks your ass.
 

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If you stand up to someone bigger than you and either take the ass beatin' like a man or they just laugh it off and go you're alright. You'll earn more points as bein' a man that way then hidin' behind some social shield that everyone has to be nice to everyone else.
 

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If you stand up to someone bigger than you and either take the ass beatin' like a man or they just laugh it off and go you're alright. You'll earn more points as bein' a man that way then hidin' behind some social shield that everyone has to be nice to everyone else.

100%. I been called way worse. Hell, i been called the word in question here too. Don't fight them over the words. Just bang their sister or girlfriend or hell both if your game that strong. Then send pics to the guy and say, 'your sister (or girlfriend.... or mom) don't think I'm one".



Best revenge ever!
 
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100%. I been called way worse. Hell, i been called the word in question here too. Don't fight them over the words. Just bang their sister or girlfriend or hell both if your game that strong. Then send pics to the guy and say, 'your sister (or girlfriend.... or mom) don't think I'm one".



Best revenge ever!


Lol yeah. I remember watching that a while ago. This guy is a fucking legend if it's true. Still feel like his revenge isn't complete unless he kicks the bully's ass
 
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Lol yeah. I remember watching that a while ago. This guy is a fucking legend if it's true. Still feel like his revenge isn't complete unless he kicks the bully's ass

Personally, I think he should have kept it up until she introduced them, lol.