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For the record, you guys are making some silly comparisons. There's a big difference between a gay artist and a song with gay content. Freddie Mercury was gay, but he didn't make songs about gay rights, did he? Neither did Rob Halford (that I know of.) If they did, would those songs have been released? Would they have been popular? Or would it have turned people away?
Also, nobody said the song is the best thing they ever heard. Macklemore sucks, I never even heard of him till I heard this song. I simply admire him for speaking about an issue that no one else will speak about. Whether he did it well or not isn't the point for me. It's the sentiment that matters.
Finally, you guys are only proving my earlier point at how homosexuality is non-marketable. This isn't controversy, it's negativity. It always creeps into discussions like this. If the song had nothing to do with gay rights, would you still be talking about it? Would you have even replied to the thread once? Or would you simply go away and let the people who like it like it?
Anyway, there's probably no point even trying to explain, but I thought I'd give it a shot.
Also, nobody said the song is the best thing they ever heard. Macklemore sucks, I never even heard of him till I heard this song. I simply admire him for speaking about an issue that no one else will speak about. Whether he did it well or not isn't the point for me. It's the sentiment that matters.
Finally, you guys are only proving my earlier point at how homosexuality is non-marketable. This isn't controversy, it's negativity. It always creeps into discussions like this. If the song had nothing to do with gay rights, would you still be talking about it? Would you have even replied to the thread once? Or would you simply go away and let the people who like it like it?
Anyway, there's probably no point even trying to explain, but I thought I'd give it a shot.
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Well if the song wasn't about gay rights the thread wouldn't have be made, and I reply to pretty much every single music thread... so yes. And wasn't really even talking that much about it. And how is homosexuality not marketable? It always sparks controversy with people the media, so gay rights gets attention.
As for Freddie and Rob, why did they need to sing about gay rights? They were gay, and they made legends of themselves. There wasn't really a push for gay rights back in Freddie's day as there was now, plus to be honest, it might have been decent. Songs about gay rights are all the same thing, and if Freddie or Halford would have done them, I honestly think it would be a waste of time since we know they're gay, we know how we should treat and stuff like that. Coming from someone who does go both ways in terms of sex, if they released a song about gay rights I wouldn't care.
As for Freddie and Rob, why did they need to sing about gay rights? They were gay, and they made legends of themselves. There wasn't really a push for gay rights back in Freddie's day as there was now, plus to be honest, it might have been decent. Songs about gay rights are all the same thing, and if Freddie or Halford would have done them, I honestly think it would be a waste of time since we know they're gay, we know how we should treat and stuff like that. Coming from someone who does go both ways in terms of sex, if they released a song about gay rights I wouldn't care.
It's alright, it doesn't matter. I'm not so good at explaining myself. It all makes perfect sense in my head, but it's hard to make people see my point. I could be completely wrong anyway, lol. All I'm really trying to say is that Macklemore was brave for making a song like that because not many people would. (and maybe I'm a little butthurt that not everybody loves the song as much as me, lol)
As for marketability, look at it this way: Freddie and Rob remained popular DESPITE their orientations, not because of. To most people it was irrelevant they were gay. It wasn't part of their act and it wasn't a center piece of their personas. It was just who they were. It didn't hurt them, but it didn't help. They didn't advertise themselves as gay in order to gain popularity - and that's my point.
The only notable example I can think of where homosexuality was marketable is that Katy Perry song. (I Kissed a Girl.) The themes of same-sex attraction were overt and heavily emphasized in the lyrics and the video. The song did well, but then again, it wasn't really about being gay. It was more about being bi-curious - which makes the song far less threatening.
In the end, I think me and you have a different definition of 'marketable.' To me, marketability is something that boost sales - which homosexuality will rarely do from an advertising stand point. It can spark controversy, but that's not always a good thing. More people would avoid a controversial product than buy it, I think.
Freddie did dress pretty homosexual like during his live performances though from what I've seen, and I'm sure if I see more, then well....o3o
That song by Katy Perry was...meh. I know Culture Club released a song called Karma Chameleon which is a love song and he was gay.. obviously and it was also a hit. And it depends, GnR Lies by Guns N' Roses was controversial(Axl using the words "smurf" and "Nope") and sparked plenty of attention and still sells well. Over 5 million copies sold and people didn't seem to avoid it.
That song by Katy Perry was...meh. I know Culture Club released a song called Karma Chameleon which is a love song and he was gay.. obviously and it was also a hit. And it depends, GnR Lies by Guns N' Roses was controversial(Axl using the words "smurf" and "Nope") and sparked plenty of attention and still sells well. Over 5 million copies sold and people didn't seem to avoid it.
I guess there's conflicting examples from all over the place. Depends largely on the audience, I suppose.
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