Ryder is actually doing a music video.

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Yeah I know. Tyson has had to work loads to get better on the stick. He started getting good and getting over during the last run of the old NXT. His feud with McGillicutty was great. Hart vs Hennig.

The originals were some of the best matches ever :yay:
 

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BaraaKhalaf92 said:
I have once posted a thread here about how Kidd is is THE MOST underrated superstar in the WWE right now..

His in ring abilities are unbelievable, but to say that he is on the same level as Punk and DB is little bit over the board..

Kidd may be on their level in terms of in ring skills, but his mic skills is not even close to being comparable to theirs.
Which I never stated either. I said that Kidd is easily better than Punk in ring. Which he is there is no denying that.
 

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Kidd/McGillicutty was an awesome feud and their matches were always great. Tyson is one of the best ring workers for sure, I think he's up there in the Top 5. He's not good on the stick, but on his defense, he doesn't really have a character and is rarely given mic time, so no surprise there. I don't really expect him to be pushed though.
 

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@"Senhor Perfect" I don't know if you've seen this so here you go.



Who says Tyson Kidd doesn't have charisma? Give this guy a chance. A clear cut character and you have your next possible big underdog babyface.
 

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Stopspot said:
Which I never stated either. I said that Kidd is easily better than Punk in ring. Which he is there is no denying that.

Maybe he is better in the ring, but Punk is way better overall..

In ring skills are not everything, if they were then John Cena wouldn't have been even in the top 10 superstars in the WWE right now.
 

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BaraaKhalaf92 said:
Maybe he is better in the ring, but Punk is way better overall..

In ring skills are not everything, if they were then John Cena wouldn't have been even in the top 10 superstars in the WWE right now.

You say that as if Cena sucks in ring. Cena is actually pretty darn good. His ring skills aren't the best but he isn't bad. He's just protected. Cena is also a master of in ring storytelling, something Punk tends to forget from time to time.
 

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Stopspot said:
You say that as if Cena sucks in ring. Cena is actually pretty darn good. His ring skills aren't the best but he isn't bad. He's just protected. Cena is also a master of in ring storytelling, something Punk tends to forget from time to time.

I never said Cena is bad in the ring, I said he is not top 10 which is true...
I can easily name 10 superstars who are better in the ring than him.
 

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BaraaKhalaf92 said:
I never said Cena is bad in the ring, I said he is not top 10 which is true...
I can easily name 10 superstars who are better in the ring than him.

Name them, when Cena is motivated he tends to be enjoyable.
 

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@"Senhor Perfect" I don't know if you've seen this so here you go.



Who says Tyson Kidd doesn't have charisma? Give this guy a chance. A clear cut character and you have your next possible big underdog babyface.


He seems to be more wooden when in front of an audience though. I agree it all could be remedied with a better gimmick and experience. Give him a run with the NXT title giving promos EVERY week. In 6mths - a year he'll be ready to compete verbally on the big stage.
 

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He probably comes off as wooden because WWE likes to carefully script every aspect of a promo. That promo looks like he was coming up with it himself in his house. Let guys speak from the heart and not just memory more often and you'd end up with better promos in general.
 

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seabs said:
Name them, when Cena is motivated he tends to be enjoyable.

CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Antonio Cesaro, Damien Sandow, Cody Rhodes, Kassious Ohno, Tyson Kidd and Christian...

As I said before, I never said that Cena is bad in terms of wrestling abilities, but he is just not in my top 10 WRESTLERS list now..
 

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BaraaKhalaf92 said:
CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Antonio Cesaro, Damien Sandow, Cody Rhodes, Kassious Ohno, Tyson Kidd and Christian...

As I said before, I never said that Cena is bad in terms of wrestling abilities, but he is just not in my top 10 WRESTLERS list now..

Cena when motivated is better than Dean lol, he's a stronger brawler with a wider move set (watch Ambrose all he hits is strikes lol) Sandow is also below him, another king average imo. Still guess we'll agree to disagree.
 

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Cena when motivated is better than Dean lol, he's a stronger brawler with a wider move set (watch Ambrose all he hits is strikes lol) Sandow is also below him, another king average imo. Still guess we'll agree to disagree.

I'm talking about in ring abilities...
Cena isn't better than Dean in terms of in ring abilities.

:idontcare: > :angry:
 

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BaraaKhalaf92 said:
I'm talking about in ring abilities...
Cena isn't better than Dean in terms of in ring abilities.

:idontcare: > :angry:

MITB 2011 > Anything Ambrose has done Brah.
 

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MITB 2011 > Anything Ambrose has done Brah.

You can't judge a superstar based on one match, Cena was awesome in that match, but in 90% of the other matches, he is the boring stale superman who is too predictable in the ring and on the mic...

Plus, Dean has only just debuted bro, just wait and you will see what he is capable of doing.