RVD Shoots On Vince, HHH, The New ECW, & More

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

RVD is a Blue fucking pot head. If he hates the WWE so much then why did he come back for the Anniversary show? As stated above he got a huge push and he got arrested. But then again that was HHH's fault for giving him the weed and then calling the police on him. Go to TNA if the WWE sucks so bad, we won't miss you.

He went for the Anniversary show because, as he said in the interview, he loves his fans. Ok, he didn't SAY it, but it's obvious. His fans wanted to see him, so he went for them.

 

[HHHforever]

Oh well what a nice guy he is, I'm sure money didn't have anything to do with it. Unlike HHH who is an insane bastard that only cares about the title, he hates the fans. He actually throws out racial slurs at the minorities in the crowd during his matches.

 

[Soulpower]

"Vince, why do you think they still chant ECW?" (Does Vince McMahon voice) "Because I've trained them to do that over the last five years."

lol, Vince McMahon. And you TOOLS calling RVD a pot-head. You're right, but read what he said. He said HHH didn't think that RVD connected with the fans (Despite RVD always getting among the biggest pops night in and night out) and in that case, HHH is WRONG!

I have to ask this... When was it that everyone decided to take their collective heads and shove them far as they could up HHH's ass?

Its funny, fans criticize HHH and they're called smarks, RVD criticizes HHH, and people decide to call him a pot-head. But I'm sure its just that RVD knows nothing about the business.

 

[The Showstopper]

Does this mean hes not going back to WWE?

 

[HHHforever]

I'm not saying that RVD doesn't know things about the business, I'm sure he does he'd have to given all the time he's been in. But, I think his judgment is biased because he clearly has a personal issue with HHH because he dropped the belt because he got arrested smoking dope. So he comes on the internet or wherever this interview took place and bashes HHH and VKM who's names will be remembered long after the name RVD.

 

[HHHforever]

Does this mean hes not going back to WWE?

Well he pretty much says that he hates the WWE and VKM, who owns it, so if he does he looks like a huge hypocrit imo.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

he has had an issue with hhh ever since he got to wwe, not since he got caught with pot

 

[This Guy]

People have to understand that not everything RVD said is nessisarly true. Thats not to say RVD is a liar, but people always percive things differently. Does Triple H have way too much say for an active competitor? Yes. But did RVD connect with the fans? Thats a tough call. Yeah he got cheered a lot, but why? Because he did amazing stuff in the ring. His ECW promos were gold, but not in the WWE. Why? Because the WWE wouldn't let him do those things. And RVD and fans can bitch that its crap that they wouldn't, but its the WWE's product and if thats not what they want to present, they don't have too. RVD signed the contract knowing this going in. Bitching about it later doesn't change anything.

As for ECW itself, well yeah, RVD's right it pisses off the Old ECW Fans. Did Vince reply that way? Who knows, its RVD's word vs. Vince's. I think the point is yes, the ECW DVD's and PPV's did really well. But for the same reason Hulk Hogan does good numbers. Because its a one shot deal to go down memory lane. ECW failed. It failed because it didn't make money. Vince is not going to present that same formula to lose money just to make a couple oldschool ECW fans happy, and who can blame him. He has a formula that works on Raw & Smackdown and makes money, why add a third brand and run it differently especially after a proven failed formula?

Vince may not believe that there are many original ECW fans left. He may be right. Because lets be honest. With the exception of RVD how many of the Originals get pops like say CM Punk for example? Not many if any. Why? Because on the big stage of the WWE they don't draw. So Fans and RVD can be bitter about it all they want, but the truth is, I wouldn't bring back the original ECW either.

 

[HHHforever]

^Very well said. I agree about RVD not connecting with the fans. I wasn't watching back in the old ECW, but I have seen some of the shows and I saw the PPV where RVD took on Cena and it was awesome, but to be honest as someone who is a WWE fan and doesn't really know the old RVD I've never been a big fan of his. He never really did anything for me which was why when they let him go I wasn't that pissed. That's just my prespective on this whole thing as this is not the first time RVD has shot off at the mouth like this.

 

[Soulpower]

Vince may not believe that there are many original ECW fans left. He may be right. Because lets be honest. With the exception of RVD how many of the Originals get pops like say CM Punk for example? Not many if any. Why? Because on the big stage of the WWE they don't draw. So Fans and RVD can be bitter about it all they want, but the truth is, I wouldn't bring back the original ECW either.

I agree with this. And that's why I've always thought that Vince should have used another name. I understand not wanting to be like the original ECW, but wouldn't it have been better to simply use another name?

And the only thing I would do different with the "New ECW" is to make title all matches Extreme Rules. I don't mean to have people go out and bash one another with chairs repeatedly, but it would another dimension to a match and would make some matches (Punk vs Big Daddy V) a bit more even.

 

[HHHforever]

^I agree that ECW title matches should be extreme. Heck it doesn't even have to be every title match, but they should definitely do them more often. I understand he doesn't want to make it the way it was and I don't think he should, but more frequent extreme matches would make things a little better imo.

 

[phantomgerald]

You want to know why RVD stayed in the company even when he didn't want to? Money. It drives his need to wrestle. Pot doesn't come free, and there was no other place in the world that would pay him that much money. He quit because he knew he was stable enough, at least for the next few years, to not need to work for WWE when he don't want to.

And the "You wouldn't know what's going on backstage so stop hating HHH" line is used so much it's not even funny. We all know that HHH probably thinks just because he shagged the owner's daughter he gets more rights than normal. You can choose to live in denial, or you can accept the fact. Maybe RVD stretches the fact a little, but when it comes down to it, when HHH doesn't like you, your career is doomed.

And RVD not being cheered, he was getting more crowd reaction than Edge and Cena at the time he was champion, so I don't think any argument is valid. It gave Raw something fresh, and the crowd was more receptive than it ever been since.

True, ECW was not the ECW it once was, and Vince is trying to attract the WWE crowd, not the original ECW crowd, so whatever RVD said wouldn't have made a difference. Afterall, he was nothing more than just a wrestler.

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

And the "You wouldn't know what's going on backstage so stop hating HHH" line is used so much it's not even funny. We all know that HHH probably thinks just because he shagged the owner's daughter he gets more rights than normal. You can choose to live in denial, or you can accept the fact. Maybe RVD stretches the fact a little, but when it comes down to it, when HHH doesn't like you, your career is doomed.

THANK YOU. Finally someone here gets it.

 

[CenaMark54]

God forbid HHH uses his power to "get ahead"

Its the friggin American way people. If everyone just sat on their asses and never tried to be the best they can be without stepping on some toes we would be a country of pussy's.

You get power by performance. If HHH had sucked for the past 10 plus years he wouldn't have the backstage pull he has, regradless of who he is married to. HHH and Taker pull the same power plays and they don't get nearly as much shit because they aren't married to a McMahon.

Triple H didn't immediately step in and have the power he does. He worked to get it, both in the ring and outside the ring. I'm not going to fault a man for looking out for his interests and trying to get the most out of his career.

How do you HHH haters think people get promotions in the real world? Most don't get them by sitting in the corner and not saying anyhting. You speak your mind and contribute. Thats what it takes.

 

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