Round 3: Quadrant 5 Matchup 2

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Better Non World Champ

  • Jushin Liger

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • Dr Death Steve Williams

    Votes: 11 68.8%

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    16
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EffectsofRaven

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Lol you're really are a blueberry...

Let's see, Japanese companies get 40k+ in the Tokyo Dome regularly throughout 00s and 60k+ in the 99s... WCW couldn't even fill Georgia Dome and WWE have a hard time with big stadium outside of Wrestlemania.

Real small league companies... Cork you are nothing more than a Big League mark, you give the internet community a bad name... Oh wait, you're just tool like 90% of the IWC as a whole.
 

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Japanese people are idiots, you could have an empty stage and promote it as Jesus' second coming and they'd turn up in their droves. Have you ever been to Japan? Go there, and see the shit they watch and like.

No stars, no charisma, no selling, nobody cares.

They all look the same, and thats not being racist. Theres nothing to distinguish one Jap wrestler from another. Maybe Morishima because he's a fat tub of shit but the others are clones of each other. Why do you think all their big names failed in WWE? They can't cut it.
 

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And theres no way ECW ever out draw WCW on pay per view, they were never that big.


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None of their big names went to WWE roflol... None of them needed to... Misawa, Kobashi, Akiyama, Taue, you name it, they didn't go there...

Mutoh was over in the 80s lol.... You have zero hard facts for your argument..
 

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Dr. Death fairly easily, but I believe Liger, along with Kobashi were the two guys from Japan that easily could have been big in the states, whether they could talk or not.
 

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Kenzo Suzuki
Ultimo Dragon
Yoshi Tatsu

Failed, big names or not. Morishima sucked so bad in his dark matches they sent him home. Says something that a WWF jobber Prince Albert can go over there and be one of their biggest names.
 

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He wasn't one of their biggest names. He was in tag teams almost the whole time, did really well there, but hardly touched the main event scene.
 

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Kenzo Suzuki
Ultimo Dragon
Yoshi Tatsu

Failed, big names or not. Morishima sucked so bad in his dark matches they sent him home. Says something that a WWF jobber Prince Albert can go over there and be one of their biggest names.

Vince thought Morishima was a woman... Dragon was at the end of his career by that point and Tatsu & Suziki weren't even relevant in Japan.

A-Train was pretty damn good from 02-04 on Smackdown and was regularly in good matches, and sure he got released, went to Japan, improved Ten Fold and now he's up there facing John Cena.

Oh please, don't get butt hurt because you're nothing more than a spastic who lives in the WWE bubble... Atleast most Shawn Michaels/WWE Marks like the mods (aside from Troy & Scott) pretty much realise Japan is as relevant... you on the other hand a lonely kid that hates everything which he can't watch on his tv or need a shit tonne of marketing and hype machines like the WWE and WCW.

Japan never needed TV deals, gimmicks etc to get over... They pretty much went out there and WRESTLED... Oh wait, you don't like wrestling, you're a promo guy who loves high flying spotfests and call that wrestling.

Go back to your boring MMA... Jeez, you call Japan boring, it's no different to MMA lol. Lemme guess, Pride is irrelevant to MMA while we're at it?
 

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I'd rather be whatever I'm being accused of being than a IWC hipster that hates everything mainstream.

Also I'd suggest you edit the 'spastic' part out of your post considering I just got infracted for way less.

Also, MMA is legit, wrestling isn't. Lets not go down that road of comparing totally different shit.