Raw Raw WWE RAW 17th February 2013 - LIVE Discussion: Orton's Tough Luck

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Well this is just more than necessary.
 

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And they couldn't fuck do this on the raw rumble to home
 

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Auto spell.

I said and they couldn't do this on the go home raw before the rumble?
 
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Cena making Cesaro look like a boss, better capitalize on it better than that fuck Sandow.

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Fresh match up between two groups that were protected, ofcourse it was going to be built perfectly. Booking isn't rocket science, all you need is a reason (getting fucked out of Chamber) and people who can sell it big (Ambrose/Reigns/Bray...mostly Bray.

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Would it have really hurt to have let Cesaro get the win over Cena last night? It would not have damaged Cena's credibility... it would have really boosted Cesaro. Yeah, they put on a good match and that always looks good, even for the guy losing (when it's with a top guy) but Cesaro beating Orton and then Cena in less than a week would have been an awesome deal and could have quickened how fast the crowd gets behind the guy and believes in him being able to WIN, not just last, in a match with anyone.
 

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Yeah I agree it would have been pretty amazing momentum for Cesaro if he could claim victory over both Orton and Cena in back to back weeks. Match was amazing but did put a small damper on it for me when Cesaro didn't win.
 

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Would it have really hurt to have let Cesaro get the win over Cena last night? It would not have damaged Cena's credibility... it would have really boosted Cesaro. Yeah, they put on a good match and that always looks good, even for the guy losing (when it's with a top guy) but Cesaro beating Orton and then Cena in less than a week would have been an awesome deal and could have quickened how fast the crowd gets behind the guy and believes in him being able to WIN, not just last, in a match with anyone.
Yes as its not natural progression. He should scare cena which he did and be acknowledged. Trips/Jeff route of gaining respect. John isn't Jericho at all, he shouldn't just take Ls without progression. Cesaro looked better in a L than he did vs Randy in a W
 

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Beating the Franchise should be a big deal, not a throwaway Raw match. Holding your own and looking good doing it is your gateway to that big match.
 
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Yes as its not natural progression. He should scare cena which he did and be acknowledged. Trips/Jeff route of gaining respect. John isn't Jericho at all, he shouldn't just take Ls without progression. Cesaro looked better in a L than he did vs Randy in a W

Shit I agree with you for once. The only way they could have had him win was if there was some interference or distraction from the chamber participants, Wyatts or Real Americans but I wouldn't have liked that because Cesaro needs to be independent here. Sounds better for the announcers to say something about his amazing showing against Cena than him getting a questionable victory and Cole and JBL yelling back and forth about if it was questionable for 5 minutes.
 
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