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There goes my hope of them actually following through on the reveal of the higher power. And them booking Punk promising to kill Cena pretty much just to hit his finisher and leave.

I didn't like it. But it breathes new life into Nexus and should be a pretty intriguing feud all in all. Bad start overall though. Plus, was hoping Justin would keep his arm down at the end and they would foreshadow him breaking out and turning face. :( I'm thinking Wade comes back to help Cena and we get a tag match of some sort at WM.

Oh, and somebody please hit Heath Slater with a bus.
 

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God I feel bad for Wade's career. Unless he can get back into this Nexus storyline, he's SOL and we're looking at Sheamus a two months after he took out HHH.
 
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The Miz-Lawler shit is awesome, if Jerry were allowed to spill some crimson, it would be completely epic. Punk has been total gold thus far, haven't seen the final segment yet.

Sucks about having Tyson Kidd get that little bit of momentum he had sucked straight from his asshole by Mark Henry. That did Henry no favors, as he's basically stuck where he is from now till he leaves the company and on top of that they ruined the mystique of Kidd's bodyguard who was reminding me of Diesel's days of body guarding HBK. But above all else, it really fucking sucks that the Kidd-Bryan match that surely would have been entertaining looks to have gone to shit after that entertaining segment and Zach Ryder somehow still has a job. It'd be nice if he and Ziggler were buried somewhere in a West Texas desert .
 

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CM Punk in Nexus made me come all over the place.

It was kinda predictable but to see it actually happen was fucking amazing.
 

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They shit all over Kidd and his bodyguard. Henry isn't a bad wrestler, but he should be used as a mid-card jobber - not someone they're trying to build on.

Nexus should go on also, Otunga was god awful on mic; thank god they have a charismatic leader in their ranks now. Not sure what will become of Wade, I'd assume MITB and then a feud with HHH after Mania.
 

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I don't know, I kind of thought Otunga was pretty decent. He was very believeable and for a split second, I felt bad when Cena turned him down. I was sort of hoping Wade Barett to show up in some kind of way but I marked when Punk put that armband on.
 

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Most of the time, I find Otunga's acting to be pretty shitty...when you are trying to make it as real as possible, you aren't suppose to sound as if you are practicing your lines from memory, you just need to say it with a natural flow. He sounds at times like he is reading from a teleprompter and I hate how they stop talking to allow the crowd to react after they mention something like AND LAST WEEK, YOU BEAT ME WITH A CHAIR. Maybe it was just me but when Otunga mentioned it and did his pause for a crowd reaction, it seemed quiet and awkward in the arena.
 

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Nah, I think Otunga was so bad that the crowd kept booing when I think he was looking for a face pop. And yeah, Otunga has forced charisma, don't like him. He's so green as a wrestler and an actor though, it's not fair to write him off yet. I just hope they don't try and turn him face again, 'cause that would bomb.
 

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As I thought, the Punk/Cena feud is way more over than the Miz/Morrison one. It's good to see Miz is doing what every other young asshole heel has done in the history of the business, beating up on legends. Ooo, here's another way for him to draw, let's dust off Sgt. Slaughter and force people to sit through yet another horrid match. The only difference will be, people don't care about the sarge anymore so unlike any match with Lawler, there will be even less of a crowd response.
 

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As I thought, the Punk/Cena feud is way more over than the Miz/Morrison one. It's good to see Miz is doing what every other young asshole heel has done in the history of the business, beating up on legends. Ooo, here's another way for him to draw, let's dust off Sgt. Slaughter and force people to sit through yet another horrid match. The only difference will be, people don't care about the sarge anymore so unlike any match with Lawler, there will be even less of a crowd response.

You're an idiot to use that as an argument. Anyone could say that - "HMPH AS I THOUGHT, THIS AWESOME HHH VS UNDERTAKER FEUD IS WAY MORE OVER THAN MIZ VS MORRISON, THEREFORE MIZ MUST BE A SHIT WRESTLER!". Obviously Punk/Cena is going to be more over, both have had a couple of years at least as main eventers and Cena is the most popular wrestler on the show.

And you can't possible hate on Miz for a WRITER's storyline. Seriously, your Miz hating is getting a huge fucking nag, you're having a go at him whenever possible and I'd have thought that someone of your intelligence would be able to plainly see Miz isn't as bad as you make him out to be. Hidden agenda.
 

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You're an idiot to use that as an argument. Anyone could say that - "HMPH AS I THOUGHT, THIS AWESOME HHH VS UNDERTAKER FEUD IS WAY MORE OVER THAN MIZ VS MORRISON, THEREFORE MIZ MUST BE A SHIT WRESTLER!". Obviously Punk/Cena is going to be more over, both have had a couple of years at least as main eventers and Cena is the most popular wrestler on the show.

And you can't possible hate on Miz for a WRITER's storyline. Seriously, your Miz hating is getting a huge fucking nag, you're having a go at him whenever possible and I'd have thought that someone of your intelligence would be able to plainly see Miz isn't as bad as you make him out to be. Hidden agenda.

There is no hidden anything, he's shite and he's proving it week after week. All I keep hearing is that Miz is so over and he's the best young star, then fucking prove it, make diamonds out of dogshit like the true greats in the business have. Until then, he's a smaller version of The Great Khali. He hasent done SHIT to prove that he's worthy of being the centerpiece of this or any company, and having yet another shit match with Lawler won't help. When he works a match against someone with the low skills of Mark Henry and has the crowd in the palm of his hand like all of you Miz lovers would like to think he does now, then I'll eat my words, but till he can carry someone, and not have someone carry him, like Morrison will, Orton and Cena have, and Daniel Bryan did, he's a worthless jobber.
 

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There is no hidden anything, he's shite and he's proving it week after week. All I keep hearing is that Miz is so over and he's the best young star, then fucking prove it, make diamonds out of dogshit like the true greats in the business have. Until then, he's a smaller version of The Great Khali. He hasent done SHIT to prove that he's worthy of being the centerpiece of this or any company, and having yet another shit match with Lawler won't help. When he works a match against someone with the low skills of Mark Henry and has the crowd in the palm of his hand like all of you Miz lovers would like to think he does now, then I'll eat my words, but till he can carry someone, and not have someone carry him, like Morrison will, Orton and Cena have, and Daniel Bryan did, he's a worthless jobber.

What proof have you that he doesn't have the crowd in his palm? Not sure about you but I hear a LOT of boos when I tune in to Raw, or watch his segments on Youtube. You're against Miz and nothing is going to change your mind, he isn't the best wrestler - doesn't need to be - he's a great promo worker and created entertainment.

And wtf he hasn't proved himself? He had a great mini-feud with Cena when he firsted jumped ship to Raw, he's proven he has improved on leaps and bounds since he first started out, his feud with Daniel Bryan was VERY entertaining and he carried Bryan in terms of Promo work; without his mic skills that fued would've been boring because we all know Daniel Bryan isn't the most charismatic guy out there.
 

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And you like Miz, and nothing's going to change your mind. If he was this great saviour like you claim him to be, why is it that I hear crickets during his matches? Why is it that after his music dies, while he's talking for the most part it's "What?" coming from the crowd and not the visceral heat that say that fat pig Vickie gets? She has more control over that crowd than Miz, why not give her the title if that is the bar you want to set. The Miz was in a TLC match with Lawler that barely drew a reaction, that's a reason right there. If you can't get over with ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS GIMMICKS IN WRESTLING, you're not championship material right now. Throw him in a feud, and feature him and lets see if he can get over. Don't devalue your title. Let the big boys Punk/Cena, you know, guys who can do it all and can draw flies, let them fight over the title because they matter and Miz doesn't.
 

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If you don't think Miz had the crowd in the palm of his hand this week, you're mentally handicapped. Oh wait...
 

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I don't like Miz either...at all. But he knows exactly how to make WWE's audience hate him. Nobody cares about his matches because he's so weak and not a good enough wrestler to make people invest in him that way. His strength is getting his heat back after his matches. He's probably the best talker on the roster until Trips comes back.

And another thing, how the fuck is Punk a "big boy" if Miz isn't? The guy gets cheap heat all the time, and has only had one really good non-spotfest match in nearly 3 years. (With Rey no-less.) Miz can at least develop genuine emotion on his own, Punk has to feud with the top face before the masses care. Miz is stuck feuding with that sack of crap JoMo, Riley, and an announcer and gets over. Punk's just another '06-'08 Edge, getting booked to do bad things to get over, talent be-damned.