SummerSlam Rate Summerslam 2017

[Black Iron PJ]

Man, I wonder who got buried deeper tonight. Rusev, Corbin, or the Beach Ball.

 

[Asuka Lock]

RIP to my friend the beach ball... you were loved

 

[Doxo]

Pros:
Epic main event
Jinder won
Both tag team matches
Natalya winning
AJ vs Owens
Enzo made me chuckle for the first time in a long time

Cons:
Great pre show, which frustrated me because the main show sucked
The Raw women's match was meh and Sasha becoming champ bums me out
The Rusev burial
The Corbin loss
The shark cage match altogether
Finn vs Wyatt, especially because the demon is lame

5/10

 

[Grievous 3D]

Man, I wonder who got buried deeper tonight. Rusev, Corbin, or the Beach Ball.

I'd say Corbin...

Rusev has Lana at home and the Beach Ball will "regenerate" and be back.

 

[Mr. Roman Empire]

On a side note they really should of let Braun go over tonight. If he would of won the title, it would of cemented his legacy as a top guy. A smart move for WWE is at the next Raw PPV have just Lesnar vs Strowman in a singles match and have Strowman go over clean and win the belt. Hes ready. He's over with the crowd. He's not just some big fool who can't wrestle. He's proven to be entertaining by completely demolishing opponents. His feud with Reigns has really given him the credentials and experience to be the champ

 

[Jeffry Mason]

Having Jinder Mahal retain was stupid and you can tell it jarred the crowd. They were really shocked and it is stupid to have a jobber win the belt and retain it over arguably the most popular and charismatic wrestler in the WWE. Dumb.

Yes, WWE relies too much on "shocking" moments (dating back to the legendary Mountie/Bret Hart feud ), but this isn't one of those times. WWE is simply trying to capitalize on an "Indian" star as their champion when they tour India later in the year, because again, they only care about money and stockholders, and very little else. Wouldn't surprise me if he kept it until the Rumble, where he loses it to literally ANYONE and this will please the Philly crowd because it means they won't have to sit through a Mania main event with JINDER FUCKING MAHAL. And since this pleases said crowd, they have free REIGN(S) to have whoever they want to win the Rumble match without fear of too much backlash (that's how WWE most likely sees it anyway. Anyone with a brain realizes it's fucking Philly and that's a total pipe dream on their part)

Okay...I mean I would have rather seen
any of the other three guys win the title and Lesnar piss off back to UFC

Good to see you've joined the rest of us smart and cool guys who want Roman as the main guy. I knew you'd come around

 

[Snowman1]

10/10. Couldn't ask for a better show than this!!!

I mean, based off of what I saw... Just the ME...

 

[SWL]

I mean, I was only really looking forward to 2 matches. The main event and the Raw tag titles and I was really REALLY happy with those 2. Usos vs New Day was great too, the rest is just kind of a blur to me rn, I haven't watched it back yet but I remember a bunch of random title changes that didn't need to be.

• Both of the womens titles didn't need to change hands if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with them giving Natalya.. something.. I guess and I also love that Sasha's the champ again, but both didn't need to happen on the same PPV. Especially nowadays when you have 2 PPVs a month, you could have saved at least one of them for your brand specific PPV.
• Just as expected Cena/Corbin and Orton/Rusev were the most useless matches on this whole card. Especially the Orton/Rusev stuff. Like what's the point of attacking someone, when it doesn't even matter moving forward? They could have easily built on that attack by having Rusev go over but only because he attacked Orton at the start.
• Jinder has legit no heat for me, he's just boring and all of his matches are literally the same.. EVEN THE ENDINGS
• Styles and Owens had their best match and I'm glad with the finish, hopefully Styles can go on and have real bangers for this title now.
• I have legit no problem with Lesnar winning because I'd rather have him lose the title in a one on one match at Mania anyways. If this is his last run with the WWE, he better put at least 1 person over. The ending of the match just kinda came out of nowhere but if you look at the match as a whole, it was one hell of a match. Without even winning, they made Strowman look like a mega star

for me, match of the night was the Raw tag titles, from the Seth's new attire, to the great-A quality match, to Cesaro killing beachballmania, to a perfect ending. Everything was on point in this match

 

[Grievous 3D]

Good to see you've joined the rest of us smart and cool guys who want Roman as the main guy. I knew you'd come around

Look...and you can quote me on this...I have no problem with Reigns as a
person or performer...I just HATE the way he has been/is booked.

I actually watched the SummerSlam main event...the first time I've watched
any Reigns since the Royal Rumble...and he was solid...no complaints.

Strowman was clearly the star of the match and I'm actually excited for the
Beast vs. the Monster...Lesnar vs. Strowman...if they actually book that
match.

I would rather Reigns be the full time Universal Champion than Lesnar
be the part time Universal Champion.

Reigns is a great worker and loyal WWE performer...I respect the guy...I
just don't like watching him because I find the way he's booked ridiculous
and frankly his "character" is bland and boring.

He just a big smug Samoan guy who gets to win 90% of the time...and that
personally does nothing for me.

But...I'd rather Reigns be the champion than Lesnar.

Really...Strowman should have gone over tonight...it just felt like the right
moment for the Monster to claim the top prize.

But I guess the WWE is still building towards Lesnar vs. Reigns at
Wrestlemania 34.

I also want to state that Carmella looked amazing...

:woah:

Like WOW...no matter what happens with his booking Cass is a
lucky man.

I hope she wears this type of outfit from now on...

Now she just needs to ditch Ellsworth...

 

[Aurtle The Turtle]

JINDER MAHAL BROTHER!!!!!!!! WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! ROIDY MAGOO!

fuck sake vince

 

[Death Walker]

I gave this year's Summerslam a rate of 8/10 and here's why (I wrote a lot because there were a lot of matches):

Although I had trouble today because somehow WWE confused the fuck outta me with the time of the pre-show and live show (my sleep schedule been off with sleeping in the mid morning to afternoon) plus my internet had its own "special" problem which made me miss all of the last parts of the pre-show and some of the beginning to Summerslam, I got the results for the matches on the pre-show and wasn't too impressed.

Match 1: The Miz & Miz-tourage defeated The Hardy Boyz & Jason Jordan, that's cool and I hope that The Miz & Miz-tourage are being shown more as a tough faction to capitalize upon. I'm guessing Jason Jordan did mediocre as usual (which I don't know where WWE is going with his story) and The Hardy Boyz, what's next for them?? Are they waiting for The Revival?? Are they going to do this triple threat against The Revival & The Good Brothers??

Match 2: Moving along, Neville defeats Tozawa after only 6 days of losing the title to him. I know some people like for Neville to hold the title but I feel like they should move it around because I'm beyond bored of this "King" story.

Match 3: The Usos won back their titles against The New Day, this I liked but I would have let the The New Day hold the titles a little longer to build a better story. You have to admit The Usos have been doing an outstanding job not just as heels but in their promos, their entrance, catchphrases, comedic rants and performance. Let's hope WWE keep this thing going awhile longer before they fuck it up royally.

Match 4: At this point, I really don't understand what WWE is doing with Baron Corbin or why. Every time he makes progress it's like they hold him back and it's annoying as hell, LET THE KID DO HIS OWN THING, VINCE, DAMN!!!!! They changed his theme music (for what, who knows), altered his ring attire (for what, who knows), made him cash in The Money In The Bank briefcase (6 days before Summerslam, just to lose the opportunity, FOR WHAT, WHO KNOWS!!!) and now they had him to come Summerslam against John Cena (of all people) to lose the match. WTH is going on?!? Please if you're not going to use this guy properly then just fire him, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER JOBBER OR USED-TO-BE-GOOD WRESTLER, Vince!

Match 5: So finally they give Naomi her second title loss and now Natalya is the Smackdown Live's WWE Women champion which I'm not too mad about. I just want to know where is this particular story going to go, maybe they're try to recycle where Alexa Bliss left off before she lost the title and was traded to Raw. As long as they make it interesting, I'll be invested besides Natalya have been improving more since she's been a heel for this long.

Match 6: Next up, was the Big Cass vs Big Show with Enzo Amore in the mix *deep breath sigh*. Umm.....this was just a waste of time and energy, week after week after week after week, Enzo credibility goes downhill and it ain't o saving it as much as they try. I didn't find nothing that stood out of this match except the fact that Enzo found a way to slip out between the bars of the shark cage......just to get laid out instantly (GREAT IDEA, WWE!!!) and then Big Cass also finish off The Big Show. :/

Promo: Moving on, The General Managers finally have their first face off and goes from pleasant to arrogant in the funny sense. I loved it, I liked how they used each others known catchphrases (even brought back Daniel Bryan's "no" chant) and this works well for when Survivor's Series get here and they battle team for team.

Match 7: Before I state my opinion on this, I'll say yes I'm a fan of Randy Orton and the work he does as The Viper. I already knew going into the match that there wasn't going to be a whole lot of drama/story, I apologize in advance but Rusev doesn't have any new working for himself. I agree this is more so WWE's fault than his, I knew way back when they brought him and Lana on that they weren't going to have enough ideas to keep them for the long haul (especially since they chose to recycle the Rocky IV storyline). And as you can see, WWE is struggling to come up with ways to utilize both Rusev and Lana.

Match 8: Finally, Alexa lose that Raw Women title and Sasha wins it but let's hope they don't have it just become stagnant like they've done with other champions. This is a perfect time to get more out of Alexa Bliss as she'll work her way to regain the championship and she can now work a better buddy story with Nia Jax (this will help both of them in the long run).

Match 9: WWE gave us The Demon King and he did deliver a great match against Bray Wyatt. I didn't care if Bray was going to lose but I did want the match to equal the long build up and it can still continue if done correctly. Does anybody know why they continue to hype Bray up just to knock him down a few pegs?? Although I don't care for the character, I still want to believe in this evil and maniacal role he plays but it's becoming hard to take him as serious as his promos.

Match 10: Then we had the Raw tag team match, the outfits were....."interesting"?? I mean Cesaro & Sheamus are still trying to pull off kilts with army jackets and tonight they added army fatigue pattern to the kilts, meh. Seth Rollins in that bright as red, looked like a Mighty Morphin Power Ranger (no offensive 'The Rangers' at all) or as if he was in an ninja film, that's just MY opinion of it. Dean Ambrose did his normal thing that suits him but had the black hoodie with red 'DA' logo, meh. But out of all of that, a very well fought tag team match for the Raw tag team titles. So now what's going to happen with Dean & Seth becoming the new tag team champs?? This is the confusing part for me.

Match 11: One of my favorite matches of the night was this US Championship match, everyone played their parts well. I thought Shane was going to end the match after all the hits and arguments he was getting from both competitors but he stood his ground and maintained as the ref for this match. AJ Styles deserves to hold on to this title especially right now, he is doing superb as a face and performing incredible feats in the ring.

Match 12: I worried for the match of Nakamura vs Mahal because you have 2 guys who really haven't been impressing the fans (and myself) at all lately and they needed to wrestle at their best. I kind of knew Jinder Mahal was going to win since he made it this far without losing the World title and WWE needs him to hold that tile much longer. I would have not minded if Shinsuke won the World Championship but would it have been too soon?? To me, it's obvious that the fans would rather Shinsuke win this match against Jinder but alas, that didn't happen. And what a terrible finish as well, this title reign is getting worse.

Match 13: And then we finally got a great main event (up until the cheesy finish but the rest of it worked out), four men went in and were prepared to beat the crap outta one another. WWE did excellent with having Braun Strowman display his "MONSTER" abilities including repeating the commentator chair throw (guess it'll be a new maneuver, hopefully in 2K18 as well) and flipping the table onto Brock. Braun is going to get his push soon enough (WWE, don't fuck this up) and Roman maintained his ability to take on whatever dished out and bounce back yet he lost and was pinned by Brock. Now this isn't necessarily a bad thing because the fans aren't ready for Roman Reigns as Universal Champion (or Braun Strowan - too soon, or Samoa Joe - too soon), in fact since Brock and Roman have history this adds to the history for later if/when they face each other. This match is what improved the state of Summerslam as a whole or at least for me.

 

[Snowman1]

Here is the thing, I know WHY they are doing it. But I question their idea that doing it is good for business nowadays. That victory was very jarring. It was sloppy, unexpected and stupid. I know that they rely on shock value, but the shock value really isn't doing shit for them lately and they have to realize that. WWE's best years come when they give the crowd someone to get behind and that person is MORE successful than not. They did this right with Hulk Hogan and they did it right with Steve Austin and the Rock (for the most part). Right now, everything is a mess. They don't have a top guy in either brand, unless you count Lesnar. But it's hard to count Lesnar because he's almost never around.

That is why I ask why. I know why they are doing it, but knowing the reason why doesn't explain what makes them think it is a good idea. Their shock value is BAD shock. If they want to shock us, they can in a better way.

You're old-school Jacob, so let me ask you.
Between this and Raw, there were 2 cruiserweight title changes, two women's title changes, two tag title changes, and a U.S. title change. Seven title changes I mostly missed (saw Tozawa winning on Raw and thought "well this is dumb but ok let's go with him then... lol")... Why is it that outside of the Raw tag titles, I don't feel like I missed anything storyline-wise?

Maybe it's me being the same cynical asshole as usual, or...

Ahh. So I'm not the only one not a fan of Mahal? What a waste of time this is

 

[Solid Snake]

A few thoughts:

Rusev losing makes no sense. He is an amazing wrestler and entertainer and they basically are neutering him. It is things like this that really piss me off about the WWE. You have a guy who clearly fans enjoy and someone who can be big and move great in the ring and what do you do with him? NOTHING! ffs Vince.

Cena clearly didn't give a crap in his match with Corbin so what was the point other than to embarrass Corbin? I get it, he made a minor attack unknowingly at a US troop. It was in the name of kayfabe and was a mistake... But I can't help but feel like Vince's way of handling this was like a 7 year old. This match's purpose was to bury Corbin faster than a turd in a littler box. Pointless.

 

[alexb]

I literally finished watching the even about half an hour ago and after a much needed smoke just to cool off from that outstanding main event, figured I’d hit the keyboard right away and share some thoughts while everything is still fresh on my mind. On a side note, I skipped the pre-show and just read the results cause, well, four hours was more than enough and as it turned out, a lot more than necessary.

Starting off backwards with the main event, that was a 10/10 on its own in my book. I was very pleased to see WWE allowing these four men to (literally) throw everything they had at each other, giving us by far the best 25 minutes (give or take) of the entire evening. Braun was made to look like the monster he really is, Roman…was Roman, Joe’s role was rather insignificant and Brock…retained.

To be honest, though I did predict Samoe Joe to win thinking the timing was the absolute best to capitalize on him, I really didn’t have a problem with the finish. A bit lame perhaps, being they rehashed the good old “stretchered out only to return” concept but, hey, Brock needed the breather cause…when was the last time he really took all that punishment? At first I really thought they might go with the title change after all and if they did, it was a perfect set-up to do so after what Lesnar endured but after he came back, the ending was really obvious.

All in all, a fantastic main event and one that I’m sure we shall remember for a really long time, including what I thought was probably the line of the night coming from Corey Graves when during Braun’s rampage he said “I hope he uses Saxton as a weapon while he’s at it”. I literally cried laughing…

As for the rest of the show, if the main event was a 10/10 on its own, the rest I feel really struggled to reach a 5/10. Between the boring shit that wasn’t necessary to begin with and some really mind boggling booking decisions, I found myself scratching my head thinking…what the fuck?

- Why give Tozawa the cruiserweight championship win on a random RAW while abruptly ending Neville’s excellent title reign in the most underwhelming fashion only to…flip flop the belt six days later?

- Why give New Day the SD tag titles when clearly the Usos are on the best run of their career only to give the belts back to the Usos about a month later?

- Why are Corbin and especially Rusev being buried like this? I know the word “buried” is often been used and thrown around very easily but these are two cases where I feel the term is more than justified. Without having any knowledge of what may have occurred backstage, the way both were treated last night to me translates as heat. I don’t know what they may have done to piss off people backstage but for Corbin to have a failed cash in attempt (did predict it personally but still) and then lose rather easily to John Cena and for Rusev to practically being squashed in, like, five seconds I think speaks volumes. Did either Cena or Orton really need to win last night? And how on earth does this benefit Corbin or Rusev? How the fuck will you try to later present them as credible heels if you basically bury them like this?

- Why the fuck is Nakamura being pinned clean in the middle of the ring against Jinder of all people? A SUPERSTAR of the magnitude of Nakamura and you hand him his first loss to...Jinder? What the fuck are these people smoking?

Just to be clear, I have nothing against Jinder Mahal and no problem with him being the WWE champion. I truly understand the reasons behind and, quite frankly, beyond the marketing aspect, I still don't mind. But did they really have to feed Nakamura to him? The way I see it, if they wanted extend Mahal's run as champion (as they clearly did), there was a plethora of people they could have used instead of wasting Nakamura. Such a shame. And if you're wondering "well, what would you have done with Nakamura?". Idk, for all I care, they could have easily given us a Nakamura vs. Zayn for the sake of it...

- AJ vs. KO: Finally the match we knew they could give us and the way they ended it, with a very decisive AJ win, this probably means the end of the feud, setting up a Shane/KO encounter of some sorts.

- Even though I changed my mind in the predictions contest (dumb move, as it turned out), I really wasn’t surprised to see Sasha win the RAW woman’s championship and hopefully WWE handles it right this time around. I also had no problem with Natalya winning the belt on the SD side of things. She’s put a lot of hard work so a brief stint is the least she deserves, though I do agree with Grevious that, looking back, this wasn’t really the best reign Naomi had all in all.

- Rollins/Ambrose and Demon Corbin winning were obviously the locks of the night so nothing really to talk about here since the right people won. The matches themselves were absolutely fine too…

- Big Cass and Big Show…sigh. I really have a lot of respect for Big Show but…please…God…can we just fucking move on already?

- Anyone seen Maria and Mike Kanellis around? DOOMED I tell ya....
On a more serious note, over 6 fucking hours and really couldn't fit Sami Zayn on the card?

- Nice to see some interaction between both GM's. As of late, it seams like they don't do any backstage skits anymore like they used to often back in the day, especially with co branded PPV's and interaction with stars from both shows, planting little seeds etc.

- Overall rating....5/10

 

[Grievous 3D]

- Even though I changed my mind in the predictions contest (dumb move, as it turned out), I really wasn’t surprised to see Sasha win the RAW woman’s championship and hopefully WWE handles it right this time around. I also had no problem with Natalya winning the belt on the SD side of things. She’s put a lot of hard work so a brief stint is the least she deserves, though I do agree with Grievous that, looking back, this wasn’t really the best reign Naomi had all in all.

Yes...I hope they at least give Sasha 100+ days and keep Alexa away from
the title for at least a year now.

I'm just happy Sasha finally had a big title match win on pay per view...this has
been due since RoadBlock: End of the Line and her loosing that IronWoman
match.

Although part of me is worried that Sasha will be a "transitional Champion"
and simply be squashed by Nia Jax at the next RAW PPV.

I really want to see Sasha & Emma feud...but clearly the WWE doesn't give a
shit about Emma...so I doubt that will happen.

Has anyone else heard the rumors the WWE is going to turn Bayley heel?

How weird would that be? Face Sasha vs. Heel Bayley...

I personally believe Natalya "deserved" the title and I'm actually happy Carmella
stayed away...as amazing as she looked at SummerSlam.

Naomi...well...her reign was better then Bayley's and she won the title (twice)
on her own and had 4 clean title defenses...but...one was against Alexa Bliss
(who was moving to RAW anyway) and 3 were against Lana.

She was pinned multiple times in tag matches and was pinned clean by
Charlotte way back in Charlotte's first SmackDown match.

The fact she didn't defend her title at Backlash or Battleground is also quite
telling...and if she was injured...she shouldn't have been carrying the belt to
begin with.

Look...Naomi has mad ring skills, a great look, slick dance moves, an incredible
body and solid mic skills...but...the WWE booking made her seem...kind of plain
and boring.

Will she get another run as Champion? Who knows? The way the WWE is booking
title changes at the moment she may win it back on Tuesday.