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[Ryan Blade]

Fucking horrendous.

- Nia' s momentum was stopped by a terrible wrestler.

- Braun's momentum of dominance since July was stopped for no damn reason

- Charlotte's PPV streak ended on a B show to a babyface who cheated to win.

- Goldberg buried the entire roster.

Fuck this shit. Complete and utter shit. And some people still pay $60 for these shows. This show was ridiculous.

And I still get people tweeting me that SmackDown isn't the A-show.

Fuck Bayley

 

[Rosie]

And the PPV was topped off by....

 

[Jacob Fox]

I am getting the feeling that Stephanie McMahon might get involved with the women's outcome tonight. It obviously should have been a DQ when Sasha Banks came down. So, she might decide to reverse the decision. Perhaps that would in her view reinstate Charlotte's "Streak."

However, doing so would be pointless to anyone other than them. The streak ending moment has come and gone for everyone and it makes absolutely zero sense. It's beyond pathetic.

Or who knows. Maybe they are trying to fast track the Sasha/Bayley match to WrestleMania. Perhaps they realized they screwed up in December by not having Sasha retain the belt and then move into a feud with Bayley. Nothing against Charlotte, who I love, but it seemed the logical way to go with the feud at the time. Charlotte dominated for over a year for the most part, now have time to build a new feud. Now, with Bayley winning the belt on Raw, they didn't have anything interesting for WrestleMania. Sure, they had ending Charlotte's streak, but that would have seemed anticlimactic since Bayley had already won the belt.

So I am guessing one of two things at this point. Steph reverses the decision or look for a quick build to Sasha vs Bayley at Mania.

I mean, as of right now, there is only one match that is officially set for WrestleMania and that is Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg. Although we know Bray Wyatt will be defending, the opponent won't be announced until Tuesday. So the ONLY official match FOUR FREAKING WEEKS before the show is Lesnar and Goldberg, which we have known for over a month!

This is bizarre and just completely baffling. I'm sure something stupid will happen on Raw to make it even more baffling.

 

[Yuu]

4/10. The entire ppv wasn't shit like everyone says.

- Roman vs Strowman wasn't bad (except for the end), and I think that the majority of people (not me) were disappointed only for the Undertaker's absence.
- The kickoff was decent.
- Neville vs Gallagher wasn't mindblowing, but was cool.
- The tag team match was better than I expected (and I expected an huge amount of boring crap).
- Sami vs Joe was too short IMHO, but it was pretty good.
- Charlotte vs Bayley was decent (there were a couple of ugly botches) before the awful end.
- The rest was pure shit. Everyone knows that ... Sasha vs Nia, Show vs Rusev, Jinder vs Cesaro and the joke that someone keeps calling "main event".

So I really don't understand why everyone's so upset. 9 people voted 0/10 and 7 voted 1,2 or 3.
Why?! A month ago, after the (almost) worst Royal Rumble match ever, there were a lot of positive ratings, and now ... 0/10?

:idk: There's something wrong I guess ...

 

[Grievous 3D]

I am getting the feeling that Stephanie McMahon might get involved with the women's outcome tonight. It obviously should have been a DQ when Sasha Banks came down. So, she might decide to reverse the decision. Perhaps that would in her view reinstate Charlotte's "Streak."

However, doing so would be pointless to anyone other than them. The streak ending moment has come and gone for everyone and it makes absolutely zero sense. It's beyond pathetic.

Or who knows. Maybe they are trying to fast track the Sasha/Bayley match to WrestleMania. Perhaps they realized they screwed up in December by not having Sasha retain the belt and then move into a feud with Bayley. Nothing against Charlotte, who I love, but it seemed the logical way to go with the feud at the time. Charlotte dominated for over a year for the most part, now have time to build a new feud. Now, with Bayley winning the belt on Raw, they didn't have anything interesting for WrestleMania. Sure, they had ending Charlotte's streak, but that would have seemed anticlimactic since Bayley had already won the belt.

So I am guessing one of two things at this point. Steph reverses the decision or look for a quick build to Sasha vs Bayley at Mania.

Its just one big giant mess...

Honestly if they went Bayley vs. Heel Sasha for the belt I'd be happy with that...as long as Sasha finally gets a big win on Pay Per View...
but...I can't see them leaving Charlotte out of the title match...so may-be a triple threat? Nia Jax is a non-entity for me at this point and
I don't think she deserves to be in a title match at Mania. Stick Nia in the ATGMBR and have her eliminate a few jobbers...

Reinstating the streak would be a dumb move...so I hope they don't do that...I mean who knows...Stephanie may declare the title vacant
and set up the Fatal 4 way at Mania tonight.

I'm just hoping once Mania is done and dusted Sasha will be a heel champion and the entire division will get an overhaul...hopefully
Emma will return, Dana will be separated from Charlotte, Alicia FFFUUUCCCCKKKKSSSSS will start competing again and hopefully
Summer Rae & Paige will return from their injuries.

My real fear is Asuka will be drafted to RAW...which would be the worst possible thing to happen to her...Please put Asuka on SmackDown WWE...

 

[Jacob Fox]

So I really don't understand why everyone's so upset. 9 people voted 0/10 and 7 voted 1,2 or 3.
Why?! A month ago, after the (almost) worst Royal Rumble match ever, there were a lot of positive ratings, and now ... 0/10?
.

Because people have different opinions about what they like and what they dislike. Some people may enjoy parts of the PPV, but the things that are negative completely overwhelm the positive and they walk away feeling it was a zero. Or the things you thought were good or decent, they felt differently about. There's really nothing more to it than that.

I mean, I wasn't disappointed about the Undertaker not showing up. I was upset because it made no sense to me to have Roman Reigns defeat Braun Strowman cleanly at this point in time. One of the few things Raw has done correctly is push Strowman as a monster heel and then when he faces his first formidable one on one opponent, he loses cleanly. So yeah, the match was decent but it ended in such an awful way that I would rate the match a 0. The bad outweighed the good. I assume many people use that reasoning when rating the PPV zero and that makes sense.

 

[Rosie]

Also, I checked, the video for Goldberg winning is basically 3/4 dislikes...

Vince, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE BOOKING DECISION AND IT IS THE BABYFACE WINNING!

 

[Yuu]

Because people have different opinions about what they like and what they dislike. Some people may enjoy parts of the PPV, but the things that are negative completely overwhelm the positive and they walk away feeling it was a zero. Or the things you thought were good or decent, they felt differently about. There's really nothing more to it than that.

I mean, I wasn't disappointed about the Undertaker not showing up. I was upset because it made no sense to me to have Roman Reigns defeat Braun Strowman cleanly at this point in time. One of the few things Raw has done correctly is push Strowman as a monster heel and then when he faces his first formidable one on one opponent, he loses cleanly. So yeah, the match was decent but it ended in such an awful way that I would rate the match a 0. The bad outweighed the good. I assume many people use that reasoning when rating the PPV zero and that makes sense.

I agree that the end of Roman vs Strowman wasn't the best booking decision ever, but when they put THE GUY as the final entrance of the ROYAL FREAKIN RUMBLE MATCH (not a ppv like the others) there were still a lot of positive ratings here.
And btw that was only the cherry on the cake, cuz the entire rumble match was terrifying to me.

However, speaking of Reigns, he squashed 2 times in a row the TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS, in the 2 last episodes of raw, and even there people weren't upset like today.

So, i'll say it again, I don't understand. What do you expect?
At least it makes a little bit sense, to let defeat Strowman by an overpushed guy like Reigns.

 

[edge4ever]

Because people have different opinions about what they like and what they dislike. Some people may enjoy parts of the PPV, but the things that are negative completely overwhelm the positive and they walk away feeling it was a zero. Or the things you thought were good or decent, they felt differently about. There's really nothing more to it than that.

I mean, I wasn't disappointed about the Undertaker not showing up. I was upset because it made no sense to me to have Roman Reigns defeat Braun Strowman cleanly at this point in time. One of the few things Raw has done correctly is push Strowman as a monster heel and then when he faces his first formidable one on one opponent, he loses cleanly. So yeah, the match was decent but it ended in such an awful way that I would rate the match a 0. The bad outweighed the good. I assume many people use that reasoning when rating the PPV zero and that makes sense.

Reigns beating Braun like that sounds like Cena beating everyone in his path over the years, even when it made no sense.

I'm not agreeing that it was the best path, but it makes Roman look strong before battling taker at mania, and it only proves, once again, that Roman is Vince's favorite, even over his hard on for Braun.

 

[edge4ever]

I agree that the end of Roman vs Strowman wasn't the best booking decision ever, but when they put THE GUY as the final entrance of the ROYAL FREAKIN RUMBLE MATCH (not a ppv like the others) there were still a lot of positive ratings here.
And btw that was only the cherry on the cake, cuz the entire rumble match was terrifying to me.

However, speaking of Reigns, he squashed 2 times in a row the TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS, in the 2 last episodes of raw, and even there people weren't upset like today.

So, i'll say it again, I don't understand. What do you expect?
At least it makes a little bit sense, to let defeat Strowman by an overpushed guy like Reigns.

People were upset about raw as well and are upset week in and week out. Plus the difference is that fans are excited and hyped for the last PPV before mania, and it felt like a 4 hour long raw that was mostly full of obvious wins and Shit results and matches.

I didn't "expect" much at all, really. But was hoping for some build towards mania with most feuds. Instead, we had Roman just beating strowman clean seemingly with little reason. Taker doesn't show.

KO gets his ass handed to him in like 20 seconds. Yes, it built Jericho and Owens at mania, but idk, the whole Goldberg squash fest is getting fucking old. I'd rather watch the Orrin vs Brock match at summerslam on repeat than endure the Shit that goldbergs matches have become. I get he can't bump a lot or much at all. But come on... nothing but squashes? Bs.

The filler matches were worse than most raw matches and served zero purpose.

I could keep going, but hopefully you get the point. When Neville vs Gallagher is the MOTN on your PPV before mania, then you
Messed up. Not to say those guys can't steal the show and do awesome Shit, but really?

 

[Jacob Fox]

I agree that the end of Roman vs Strowman wasn't the best booking decision ever, but when they put THE GUY as the final entrance of the ROYAL FREAKIN RUMBLE MATCH (not a ppv like the others) there were still a lot of positive ratings here..

True, but Roman didn't win the Rumble, which for some people was a big enough plus to overlook the fact that he came in at 30.

However, speaking of Reigns, he squashed 2 times in a row the TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS, in the 2 last episodes of raw, and even there people weren't upset like today.

I think at this point, most of us couldn't care less about the Raw tag team belts. I mean, Anderson and Gallows have been booked like crap. Braun Strowman hasn't. Strowman has been booked to look strong. Anderson and Gallows have been booked as jokes for a long time. So it does make more sense that people would be more upset about this than those instances.

So, i'll say it again, I don't understand. What do you expect?

I expected them to have Strowman win the match, actually. Roman Reigns' is not going to lose anything by being defeated by Strowman. Reigns has lost matches before. Strowman, however, was getting a good push. He dominated plenty of handicap matches and Sami Zayn. A clean win vs Roman Reigns would have done wonders for his push. However, Reigns really gained nothing from this victory. It put an uncomfortable pause on Strowman's push and now Reigns is going to move on to something else. Strowman, on the other hand, is left in the lurch. And it made no sense for them to do this, especially with the reactions Strowman has been getting. IMHO, the ending to this match was complete nonsense.

At least it makes a little bit sense, to let defeat Strowman by an overpushed guy like Reigns

I respect your opinion, but I disagree with it completely. If they wanted Reigns to beat Strowman, it should have been further down the line. It shouldn't have been in the middle of Strowman's monster push. Before Reigns, Strowman's work recently has mainly been jobber handicap matches and Sami Zayn. So now, they finally give him the competition he has been asking from Foley for months and in the very first match, he loses cleanly? So he can beat jobbers and Zayn, but that's it? That is what this loss makes it look like. Sorry, but I find it unfathomable how anyone can really think that makes sense.
But that's just the way it works. You don't understand why I didn't like it and I can't understand why you didn't hate it. No one is wrong, it is just differences of opinion. We'll see what happens from here on out.

 

[Yuu]

True, but Roman didn't win the Rumble, which for some people was a big enough plus to overlook the fact that he came in at 30.



I think at this point, most of us couldn't care less about the Raw tag team belts. I mean, Anderson and Gallows have been booked like crap. Braun Strowman hasn't. Strowman has been booked to look strong. Anderson and Gallows have been booked as jokes for a long time. So it does make more sense that people would be more upset about this than those instances.



I expected them to have Strowman win the match, actually. Roman Reigns' is not going to lose anything by being defeated by Strowman. Reigns has lost matches before. Strowman, however, was getting a good push. He dominated plenty of handicap matches and Sami Zayn. A clean win vs Roman Reigns would have done wonders for his push. However, Reigns really gained nothing from this victory. It put an uncomfortable pause on Strowman's push and now Reigns is going to move on to something else. Strowman, on the other hand, is left in the lurch. And it made no sense for them to do this, especially with the reactions Strowman has been getting. IMHO, the ending to this match was complete nonsense.



I respect your opinion, but I disagree with it completely. If they wanted Reigns to beat Strowman, it should have been further down the line. It shouldn't have been in the middle of Strowman's monster push. Before Reigns, Strowman's work recently has mainly been jobber handicap matches and Sami Zayn. So now, they finally give him the competition he has been asking from Foley for months and in the very first match, he loses cleanly? So he can beat jobbers and Zayn, but that's it? That is what this loss makes it look like. Sorry, but I find it unfathomable how anyone can really think that makes sense.
But that's just the way it works. You don't understand why I didn't like it and I can't understand why you didn't hate it. No one is wrong, it is just differences of opinion. We'll see what happens from here on out.

1- That was exactly what wwe had in mind: to spit in the face of fans (after an awful rumble btw), saying "we make the rules bitches" and ensure that they will cheer Orton (a guy that nobody wanted to see winning before the rumble) anyway, cuz "hey, he eliminated Reigns!! Yayyyy!!!!".

2- Nobody used to give a crap about Heath Slater 10 months ago (just to do an example), but that doesn't mean that the guy should have been buried forever.
Luke & Gallows had just won the belts finally, and then ...

3- Strowman (thanks God I've to say) was getting a "good push" only to make him enjoyable, to create hype for ppvs like the Rumble, and to feed him to Reigns. If u really think that they had any plans for his future ... Honestly, I think u are damn wrong.


Of course, there are differences of opinions, and of course, we can keep with our lives, but I still think that u (and everyone who thinks like you) are wrong.

:ko:

 

[edge4ever]

1- That was exactly what wwe had in mind: to spit in the face of fans (after an awful rumble btw), saying "we make the rules bitches" and ensure that they will cheer Orton (a guy that nobody wanted to see winning before the rumble) anyway, cuz "hey, he eliminated Reigns!! Yayyyy!!!!".

2- Nobody used to give a crap about Heath Slater 10 months ago (just to do an example), but that doesn't mean that the guy should have been buried forever.
Luke & Gallows had just won the belts finally, and then ...

3- Strowman (thanks God I've to say) was getting a "good push" only to make him enjoyable, to create hype for ppvs like the Rumble, and to feed him to Reigns. If u really think that they had any plans for his future ... Honestly, I think u are damn wrong.


Of course, there are differences of opinions, and of course, we can keep with our lives, but I still think that u (and everyone who thinks like you) are wrong.

:ko:

Disagreeing with Jacob, in most cases, is like tugging on supermans cape or spitting into the wind. You just don't do it.

 

[Snowman1]

I agree that the end of Roman vs Strowman wasn't the best booking decision ever, but when they put THE GUY as the final entrance of the ROYAL FREAKIN RUMBLE MATCH (not a ppv like the others) there were still a lot of positive ratings here.
And btw that was only the cherry on the cake, cuz the entire rumble match was terrifying to me.

However, speaking of Reigns, he squashed 2 times in a row the TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS, in the 2 last episodes of raw, and even there people weren't upset like today.

So, i'll say it again, I don't understand. What do you expect?
At least it makes a little bit sense, to let defeat Strowman by an overpushed guy like Reigns.

People have been pissed though... but Roman was going after the part-timers during the Rumble and destroying (but not pinning) the tag champions who've been neutered throughout 2016...
But Strowman who's been treated like a star. Arguably the first real star WWE has made in some time. Just to remind us he's Cena 2.0.

 

[Solid Snake]

@stonecoldsamadams voted 10/10...
I think stonecoldsamadams was stonecolddrunk :austin2: