Protesting Roman Reigns

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I wonder how many
wrestlers are currently set on "Always Push"?
going down the current roster I'd probably go with Bliss, Brock, Cena, Charlotte, Orton, Strowman, Reigns, Triple H, Undertaker and maybe even Styles at this point. They're people I don't see the company ever giving up on
 
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Well...that's kind of boring...I wonder how many
wrestlers are currently set on "Always Push"?
just all the people that have got to a certain level of stardom that they will always be protected. I don't know how thats boring. That's what every wrestler is trying to get to so that they have a secure job and successful career.
 

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I don't know how thats boring.
Because it makes certain matches incredibly predictable
and provides a barrier for "emerging" stars that they may
never get past restricting other performers & creating an
elite group at the top.

Sounds boring to me.

That's what every wrestler is trying to get to so that they have a secure job and successful career.
Yes...and with a group of "Always Pushed"
at the top...it makes it difficult for others to
achieve that level of success.

And please don't reply with wrestlers make their
own push. If that was true Damien Sandow would
see be around & Rusev would be at the top of the
SDL card while Reigns would be a mid-card guy at
best.
 

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Because it makes certain matches incredibly predictable
and provides a barrier for "emerging" stars that they may
never get past restricting other performers & creating an
elite group at the top.

Sounds boring to me.
Just the way sport is. Just so happens WWE is a semi fictional TV show with a sporting premise. Roger Federer is not going to be tennis number 1 forever. But he was for a long ass time. Just the way sport is, it takes time for Lionel Messi to be replaced. I suppose sport is boring to some people tho.
 

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Just the way sport is. Just so happens WWE is a semi fictional TV show with a sporting premise. Roger Federer is not going to be tennis number 1 forever. But he was for a long ass time. Just the way sport is, it takes time for Lionel Messi to be replaced. I suppose sport is boring to some people tho.
That's interesting analogy & I guess I don't have a problem with someone
staying on top for a long period of time...if they are at least highly skilled &
entertaining to watch...but they should not be a wall other younger, talented
performers can't break through.

Wrestling is different from real sport as its basically a violent theater show
with the result already decided before a punch is thrown.

Therefore...you have certain results that are "unbelievable" in my opinion...
which I personally find hard to accept & move on from.

Nia Jax taking 10 minutes to put away Alexa Bliss...twice...
Carmella defeating Charlotte clean in less than 10 minutes...
Rusev not simply kicking the Undertaker in the face & rolling his old ass into a coffin...
&
I could literally go on & on & on...but I won't.

I simply want high quality wrestling with compelling, interesting characters with LOGICAL
results...and sometimes the "Always Pushed" Brigade gets in the way of that.

John Cena appears to be the BIG ONE...and while I wasn't around for
the matches themselves...his Wrestlemania wins over Bray Wyatt &
Rusev are the biggest examples of this "Brick Wall" Syndrome.

I've read a lot in the wrestling community were upset at Cena making
Kevin Owens tap out at Battleground a couple of years ago.



I'm personally a big fan of seeing new talent be pushed...but then the
WWE generally takes things too far sometimes with the wrong new
talent...like with Alexa Bliss in my opinion.

And for the record...yes I do believe Charlotte has been "Over pushed"
as well...but at least she's a solid in-ring worker who is willing to do what
she can to elevate herself & the entire division.

Alexa Bliss has only ever elevated herself & no one else...

Well...maybe Naomi & Nia Jax...but one was a roster change & the other
was her best friend...so make of that what you will.
 
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I mean there is no logic in a fight. Fighting is unpredictable anything can happen. But yeah you can choreography anything in WWE. So Nia Jax not squashing Bliss just makes me think that even though Nia is a big woman, she isn't a monster. Nia not being a monster just makes me think she is a plus sized model turned wrestler who gets beat up by 4 foot Alexa Bliss.
 
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So Nia Jax not squashing Bliss just makes me think that even though Nia is a big woman, she isn't a monster. Nia not being a monster just makes me think she is a plus sized model turned wrestler who gets beat up by 4 foot Alexa Bliss.
Which makes Nia look even less intimidating than she already was.

Alexa Bliss has been booked for too strongly for a woman of her
size & skill level...not to mention her selling itself is also terrible.

Ugh...whatever.

I don't like 50/50 booking...but if they are going to push someone...
at least push them probably & logically.

What was this thread about again?

*Check*

Oh yeah...Protesting Roman...

I think I said what I had to say earlier in the thread.
 

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I know! Let's stage a sit-in! That'll teach 'em!

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Wait a second...

Jokes aside, here's some things to consider:

  • Every ticket not purchased by a Reigns hater can simply be purchased by someone else. Assuming every Reigns hater declines to purchase a ticket, this will only stack arenas full of people who will cheer Reigns.
  • Reigns haters are more than likely not buying Reigns merch on a level that would make refusing to buy said merch a particularly big dent in WWE's wallet. Who even buys products depicting people they aren't a fan of in the first place?
Ehhh somewhat. But not buying tickets when Roman is main eventing, for example, would have an impact if a lot of fans didn’t show up or the show didn’t sell well because of the main event. Sure he may get cheered somewhat by people who are there, but Vince hates not selling out arenas or having to drape over empty seats. If and when Roman does Main event, or he’s the most advertised star, a lot of people don’t buy tickets, well, that will have an impact and WWE will catch on, regardless if reigns is cheered a little or not.

Money talks, and not selling out arenas when the plank is the main guy for the show would matter.
 
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I mean there is no logic in a fight. Fighting is unpredictable anything can happen. But yeah you can choreography anything in WWE. So Nia Jax not squashing Bliss just makes me think that even though Nia is a big woman, she isn't a monster. Nia not being a monster just makes me think she is a plus sized model turned wrestler who gets beat up by 4 foot Alexa Bliss.
There is def logic in a fight. Absurd. That’s like saying that just because anything can happen in life, nothing can be logical. Not true. A fight can be unpredictable, just like life, but if you’re logical and know what you’re doing, you’ll win most of them.
 

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There is def logic in a fight. Absurd. That’s like saying that just because anything can happen in life, nothing can be logical. Not true. A fight can be unpredictable, just like life, but if you’re logical and know what you’re doing, you’ll win most of them.
You missed the point of my post. Obviously Brock Lesnar would destroy James Ellsworth in a fight. But my point is nothing to do with that, the point was not all wrestling matches need to make sense. Everyone knows that you can apply logic and tactics to a fight. Everything happens for a reason. Just don't expect the result to be as it seems.
 

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not all wrestling matches need to make sense.
To elaborate on this:

"Make sense" in regards to wrestling is different than "make sense" in regard to real fighting. If wrestling did make sense, why would anyone by jumping off the top rope or kicking out of a chair shots to the head? Wrestling requires a more comic book or cartoonish sort of "sense". Lesnar would eat Bryan like a vegan cheeseburger realistically speaking, but in wrestling Bryan can be built up over time to look like a credible adversary. That would result in it making sense for him to beat Lesnar.

But not buying tickets when Roman is main eventing, for example, would have an impact if a lot of fans didn’t show up or the show didn’t sell well because of the main event. Sure he may get cheered somewhat by people who are there, but Vince hates not selling out arenas or having to drape over empty seats.
It'd have an effect only if other people don't just buy up those tickets instead. It all depends on whether or not those tickets are gobbled up by the apathetic/casual fans.
 
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To elaborate on this:

"Make sense" in regards to wrestling is different than "make sense" in regard to real fighting. If wrestling did make sense, why would anyone by jumping off the top rope or kicking out of a chair shots to the head? Wrestling requires a more comic book or cartoonish sort of "sense". Lesnar would eat Bryan like a vegan cheeseburger realistically speaking, but in wrestling Bryan can be built up over time to look like a credible adversary. That would result in it making sense for him to beat Lesnar.


It'd have an effect only if other people don't just buy up those tickets instead. It all depends on whether or not those tickets are gobbled up by the apathetic/casual fans.
Well true, that’s the worry no matter what. I feel that if this keeps happening enough and venues are missing a few hundred fans or so every time reigns is main eventing, it could matter. On top of staying silent if they did happen to go.
 

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It's called "the willing suspension of disbelief." If there was any logic to WWE matches, they wouldn't be fighting 6 days in a row.
 

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It's called "the willing suspension of disbelief." If there was any logic to WWE matches, they wouldn't be fighting 6 days in a row.
True...but since they don't take place on TV...House shows/live events don't count.

At least they don't in my mind...
 
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I thought this was worth sharing because it makes valid points if you are serious about protesting against his push.
The article highlights each point below so if you care to read why you want to do these things, click the link.
I think it is painfully obvious why you would though.


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Don’t walk out, just stay home
Don't Boo Roman Reigns, just remain silent
Don't Buy Roman Reigns' Merchandise
Cancel the WWE Network


A Step-By-Step Guide To Protesting Roman Reigns And 2018 WWE Live Events

Don’t walk out, just stay home - Don't give them money for a product you are not happy with.
Don't Boo Roman Reigns, just remain silent - No reaction is the worst reaction.
Don't Buy Roman Reigns' Merchandise - Don't give them money for a product you are not happy with.
Cancel the WWE Network - Don't give them money for a product you are not happy with.

I would also add that you should change the channel or turn off the TV during his matches or segments. This will show a decline of interest from home viewers as well.

I am not bothered by this because I don't watch on a regular basis. I hardly watch at all anymore because it isn't just Roman's booking that is a problem, but that is just my opinion.

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You know what REALLY funny about this topic? I BEEN DOING MOSTLY ALL OF THIS FOR OVER 3 YEARS! Since the WWE Network was creator I never ones brought and will not until that give the fan what that wanted. I not brought ANY WWE DVD's Or Gear in like 3 years. And last year there well alot of Raw and SmackDown I did not watch to. I so freakin sick of Roman.
 
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