Pro Wrestling is racist?

[Aids Johnson]

FIVE TIME! FIVE TIME! FIVE TIME! FIVE TIME! FIVE TIME!

And yes, it does twist a lot and make certain people look like victims when it comes down to who has/had the most talent, who drew the biggest crowds, and who was willing to join the kiss my ass club.
:happy2:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Neptune]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rogue]

Remember Rufus Pancake Patterson? I'd love to fight you John, but my disability check just came in!

Anyways, we're seeing a lot of progression. The New Day are one of the biggest parts of the WWE right now. But if they mess up Apollo Crews it's all on them. He's a top guy in the making.

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

Yeah, race is an issue, I have never seen that many blacks or asians become world champion.

 

[Snowman1]

Started watching Wrestling in 2008 - brings up 2006.

Is "blacks" a PC term Lock? lmao.

lol

 

[Aids Johnson]

lol

Doug used to call me on my cell phone.

 

[Roadster]

1st thing I found wrong with this. It said that WCW surpassed WWF during Booker T's reign as champion. Which is farthest from the truth.

 

[Jacob Fox]

1st thing I found wrong with this. It said that WCW surpassed WWF during Booker T's reign as champion. Which is farthest from the truth.

Yeah the writer makes up a lot of facts to support his premise. Which is sad because if he had done his research properly, he probably could have found plenty of legitimate facts. Instead he told a lot of lies and destroyed his credibility, doing more harm to his cause than good.

 

[Aids Johnson]

WWE IS RACIST? amn:

 

[Green Jesus]

WWE is very pandering to the average white american, but I don't think it is outright racist. A little more black wrestlers that don't dance/are thugs would go a long way, though.

 

[Adamley Jonesses]

Pro Wrestling is not racist. It's unfair to call it such a strong word when WWE is not the only wrestling promotion out there. I believe JTG, he said WWE is not racist, but there's only how far you can go.

 

[Roadster]

First of all, the word "racist" is a completely overused and misunderstood term. It means the thought of superiority over another race, and that race determines all your actions, thoughts, and ideas. Prejudice is a far more elaborate word. And to speak about the gimmicks, "stereotypical" is a better fit.

There does seem to be a prejudice against black wrestlers, in some walks of pro-wrestling. In WWE? I don't think so. WWE has a lack of black world champions, and that can be a call for concern, but not a lot of black guys have gotten over. But that provokes the argument that the reason black people don't get over is because they get stuck with stereotypical rapper, money-loving, sexual, exotic etc. gimmick. The ones who didn't fit that mold, like Booker T, Bobby Lashley and Ron Simmons. Were given world title runs. They had runs on top of their brand/company at one-point or another. Booker T closed out the last show of a company that lasted nearly 40 years. It wasn't because they were trying to make a statement about being black friendly, but because he was LEGIT over. Bobby Lashley carried ECW on his back for a solid 6 months before getting his shot on RAW. Simmons became the first black WCW champion, beating the uber-heel Vader.

Now, speaking of Simmons beating Vader. Simmons was virtually a mid-card guy. He was over, but not champion over. He was seen as an underdog because he had that presence about him. But many people think Simmons was booked to beat Vader because Bill Watts wanted to seem black friendly. So does that mean pro wrestling uses black wrestlers as PR stunts? I don't think so, either. Booker T was uber-over. He was the home-grown star that carried the company, hand-in-hand with Steiner for the entirety of the 2000s. Bobby Lashley was going to be the NBT. Hell, he even beat the shit out of McMahon. But injuries got in the way.

Then there is the Big Es, Kingstons, R-Truths, Visceras etc. It seems everything you can pull out of a stereotype generator was latched on to these guys. Was there any need for a Jamaican gimmick? I don't think WWE pulls any real interest over there, anyways. Big Es rendition of "Buff, overly scripted MLK" speeches during the summer of last year were the most cringe worthy things, I have ever seen. R-Truths thug, rapper gimmick was nice they had to try it twice. Viscera was the 2nd attempt by WWE to make another gigantic black man an overly-sexual, women objectifying, sex loving joke. They tried to redeem him, but it was too late.

Now that I got the good, and ugly about black wrestlers in the WWE, why not look at the broader scope of things? Let's talk minorities , in general, in the industry of pro-wrestling. Simply put, there is very little to call racist. I mean it seems the Blue gimmicks get dropped the second your dropped from the WWE. I can't remember an overly-racist/stereotypical moment in the scope of wrestling, off the top of my head. Not saying there isn't any AT ALL. But the degree WWE does it, it's quite tame.

Final verdict. No, but there is surely a plausible argument as to why many people think so. Questionable booking, gimmicks and ideas. I was going to touch on Booker vs. HHH, but I'm sure everyone knows what that was about.

@Snowman :henry2:

 

[Neptune]

First of all, the word "racist" is a completely overused and misunderstood term. It means the thought of superiority over another race, and that race determines all your actions, thoughts, and ideas. Prejudice is a far more elaborate word. And to speak about the gimmicks, "stereotypical" is a better fit.

There does seem to be a prejudice against black wrestlers, in some walks of pro-wrestling. In WWE? I don't think so. WWE has a lack of black world champions, and that can be a call for concern, but not a lot of black guys have gotten over. But that provokes the argument that the reason black people don't get over is because they get stuck with stereotypical rapper, money-loving, sexual, exotic etc. gimmick. The ones who didn't fit that mold, like Booker T, Bobby Lashley and Ron Simmons. Were given world title runs. They had runs on top of their brand/company at one-point or another. Booker T closed out the last show of a company that lasted nearly 40 years. It wasn't because they were trying to make a statement about being black friendly, but because he was LEGIT over. Bobby Lashley carried ECW on his back for a solid 6 months before getting his shot on RAW. Simmons became the first black WCW champion, beating the uber-heel Vader.

Now, speaking of Simmons beating Vader. Simmons was virtually a mid-card guy. He was over, but not champion over. He was seen as an underdog because he had that presence about him. But many people think Simmons was booked to beat Vader because Bill Watts wanted to seem black friendly. So does that mean pro wrestling uses black wrestlers as PR stunts? I don't think so, either. Booker T was uber-over. He was the home-grown star that carried the company, hand-in-hand with Steiner for the entirety of the 2000s. Bobby Lashley was going to be the NBT. Hell, he even beat the shit out of McMahon. But injuries got in the way.

Then there is the Big Es, Kingstons, R-Truths, Visceras etc. It seems everything you can pull out of a stereotype generator was latched on to these guys. Was there any need for a Jamaican gimmick? I don't think WWE pulls any real interest over there, anyways. Big Es rendition of "Buff, overly scripted MLK" speeches during the summer of last year were the most cringe worthy things, I have ever seen. R-Truths thug, rapper gimmick was nice they had to try it twice. Viscera was the 2nd attempt by WWE to make another gigantic black man an overly-sexual, women objectifying, sex loving joke. They tried to redeem him, but it was too late.

Now that I got the good, and ugly about black wrestlers in the WWE, why not look at the broader scope of things? Let's talk minorities , in general, in the industry of pro-wrestling. Simply put, there is very little to call racist. I mean it seems the Blue gimmicks get dropped the second your dropped from the WWE. I can't remember an overly-racist/stereotypical moment in the scope of wrestling, off the top of my head. Not saying there isn't any AT ALL. But the degree WWE does it, it's quite tame.

Final verdict. No, but there is surely a plausible argument as to why many people think so. Questionable booking, gimmicks and ideas. I was going to touch on Booker vs. HHH, but I'm sure everyone knows what that was about.

@Snowman :henry2:

I am reporting you for being racist.

 

[Neptune]

But yes, what you said Tsar is basically the truth of the matter. And "racist" is such an overused term. Everyone has prejudice thoughts or says something prejudice from time to time, it is only human. We all all selfish and think of ourselves first and those who are most like us.

 

[seabs]

"There does seem to be a prejudice against black wrestlers, in some walks of pro-wrestling. In WWE? I don't think so. WWE has a lack of black world champions, and that can be a call for concern, but not a lot of black guys have gotten over. But that provokes the argument that the reason black people don't get over is because they get stuck with stereotypical rapper, money-loving, sexual, exotic etc. gimmick. "

The biggest star of the last 10 years started with a stereotypical white rapper gimmick, if the talent is good enough it can get over.Let's not forget New Day have a motivational preacher kind of stick going off also.

The talent just wasn't there for most of the black guys to be a major player, let's not forget they gave Mabel the king of the ring when it meant something (admittedly in a bad time for the company), Booker got the WHC as did Mark Henry and The Rock was one of if not their biggest star of all time (inb4 racists have a moral line regarding linage and only discriminate against people who are over 50% black)