Premier League Discussion: David Moyes is just inferior

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Just noticed the title of this thlead :dawg:
 

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Currently watching the liverpool game wont mention score at 77 mins but next season for champs league gonna need too strengthen the defence as another shocking defense performance by a team gunning for the championship. Although after chelsea and man citys last two scorelines all at it defensively.
 

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Danny Welbeck is considering his future at Manchester United after becoming dismayed at his lack of opportunity as a striker under David Moyes and unsure of his relationship with the manager.

Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur are two clubs interested in signing Welbeck whose pedigree as a Premier League winner and established international make him an attractive target in the close season.

Welbeck is aware of the interest and is weighing up his options as he is intent on ensuring his career does not stall under Moyes.

Welbeck will have two years left on his current contract in the summer, the usual juncture when fresh terms would be offered to him. Now the 23-year-old, who currently earns around £70,000 a-week, may decide against signing on once more.

Welbeck has scored 10 times in 32 appearances for the club during the campaign and is frustrated at his limited chances as a forward, with Moyes often playing him in a wide position.

Moyes has caused bemusement on occasion during what has been an unsuccessful first season in charge. In mid-December, Moyes claimed that he had been forced to instruct Welbeck to stay behind for extra training, telling him to follow Wayne Rooney's example.

The Scot said: "I've got to say we had a word with him about a month ago and we said that he needs to be the last off the training field. Wayne's out there practising his finishing each day, whether it's taking free-kicks, shooting from tight angles or bending them in, whatever it may be, Wayne's practising. I said: 'Danny, you need to be out there every day finishing, even if it's 15 minutes at the end.'"

Welbeck questioned Moyes's claim, saying a few days later: "I have been doing that ever since I have been at United. Obviously I have been injured this season so maybe the manager has not seen me on the training pitch as much."

Last week Moyes disciplined Welbeck, along with Tom Cleverley and Ashley Young, for a night out in Manchester following the Champions League exit to Bayern Munich.

While United had no game for 10 days before Sunday's trip to Everton and the manager had given his squad three days off, Cleverley, Welbeck and Young are thought to have contravened stipulations that they should not be out late within 48 hours of the tie.

Moyes's decision was not received well, and if Welbeck was to leave it would be a significant blow to the manager's hopes of restoring United to serious title challengers next season. Welbeck is a lifelong United fan, who is from the city, and his unhappiness signals further disgruntlement within the squad.

In January The Guardian reported that some senior players were uncertain of Moyes's credentials and with United well outside a Champions League berth the questions remain.

Nemanja Vidic, the captain, has already announced he will depart in the summer with the futures of Rio Ferdinand and Patrice Evra also in the balance.

Javier Hernández, Shinji Kagawa, Darren Fletcher, Nani, Young, Cleverley, Alexander Büttner and Ryan Giggs are other members of Moyes's squad whose futures are also in doubt.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...yes?CMP=twt_gu
 
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I still see wellbeck being there next year. Now im no Man Utd fan but i cant help when watching think ferdinand is on the decline and needing replaced bady. Currently watching the everton man utd game and utd just look to have no heart defensively at all everton couldve easily had another right now and its only ht. Tried best there not to reveal score lol
 

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I still see wellbeck being there next year. Now im no Man Utd fan but i cant help when watching think ferdinand is on the decline and needing replaced bady. Currently watching the everton man utd game and utd just look to have no heart defensively at all everton couldve easily had another right now and its only ht. Tried best there not to reveal score lol

Watching the Everton and United game as well dude.

:damnn: at 2-0 we are now destined for 7th place.
 

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Looking at the table if finishing 7th for utd to be able to qualify for europa league need arsenal to finish 5th and win the FA Cup so that the usual cup winners place gets awarded to next position in the league.
 

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Looking at the table if finishing 7th for utd to be able to qualify for europa league need arsenal to finish 5th and win the FA Cup so that the usual cup winners place gets awarded to next position in the league.

I would rather not be in a European competition at all if it meant participating in the Europa League. Without appearing a football snob I think the Europa League is a little beneath United. Manchester United on Channel 5? :dawg:
 

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Dont know as if they had to enter it and win it would show were still a major force just had a minor blip of a season i do agree its should be beneath united but showed this season not good enough to be a champions league team next year and to be in a position not even able to qualify for a europa spot makes things look worse to me if that makes sense lol. United should never been in this position at all.
 
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Dont know as if they had to enter it and win it would show were still a major force just had a minor blip of a season i do agree its should be beneath united but showed this season not good enough to be a champions league team next year and to be in a position not even able to qualify for a europa spot makes things look worse to me if that makes sense lol. United should never been in this position at all.
Isn't there talk of making it so that the winner of the Europa league gets an automatic spot in the CL now as well?
 

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united would benefit from being in the Europa League financially, and I hate to think from a money viewpoint but in capitalism we have to...
 

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Not likely. Javier leaving is far more likely.

That sounds depressing. Hernandez doesn't seem to be able to perform consistently as a starter but he's a lot better than Welbeck imo. Also is it just me or is Welbeck a reverseShrek? Rooney is horrible on the international stage whilst Welbeck only seems to step it up at that level.
 

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tbf I only ever see Welbeck scoring in internationals against teams like Moldova nowadays
 

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That sounds depressing. Hernandez doesn't seem to be able to perform consistently as a starter but he's a lot better than Welbeck imo. Also is it just me or is Welbeck a reverseShrek? Rooney is horrible on the international stage whilst Welbeck only seems to step it up at that level.
There isn't a United fan alive who isn't depressed about this, Seabs. Chicha has one of the best goals:minutes ratios in premier league history; amongst names like Thierry Henry and Drogba. It was ridiculous how lethal he was and how little we used him, but at least Sir Alex played him in the big games where we NEEDED goals.

I fucking despise Moyes.
 
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