Phil Jones = new Roy Keane?

[Robbie Coletrain]

Lampard, Cleverly, Walcott, Rooney (people thought he was going to be the GOAT along with the likes of Pele and Maradona lmao), Owen, Shearer, Milner, Ashley Cole, Wilshere, Carroll, Johnson do i need to say more?

How can you put Cleverley or Wilshere in there, they are both still very young and Wilshere is excellent, Owen and Shearer both had fantastic careers and imo Ashley Cole has been the best LB in the world over the last 10 years, silly list.

 

[JeebaK]

How can you put Cleverley or Wilshere in there, they are both still very young and Wilshere is excellent, Owen and Shearer both had fantastic careers and imo Ashley Cole has been the best LB in the world over the last 10 years, silly list.

I rest my case. :dawg:

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

I rest my case. :dawg:

Yes because at 21 Jack Wilshere's career is effectively over and he can't improve at all from now, same story with Cleverley. People never said Shearer was one of the worlds best, he surprised everyone with his ability, Owen was plagued by injury yet still managed to almost break England's top ever goal scoring record. And if you can't agree that Ashley Cole has been one of the best if not the best LB over the last 10 years then you, little princess, are a fool. ity1:

 

[Crayo]

In April 2011, Wilshere won the PFA Young Player of the Year award.

So overrated. I guarantee JeebaK will have to Google to know what that award even is. Everyone knows Ashlery Cole has been the best left back in the world for a long period now. Rooney -- admitted by Messi himself Mr. Jeebak -- is one of the best players in the world, period. Gerrard & Lampard are icons out of England, and are actually constantly blasted by English press for their lack of ability when playing together, but both in the past have been up there with the best midfielders in the world (especially Gerrard).

You can tell JeebaK wants to be British, since we produce so many awesome players :haha:

 

[JeebaK]

Yes because at 21 Jack Wilshere's career is effectively over and he can't improve at all from now, same story with Cleverley. People never said Shearer was one of the worlds best, he surprised everyone with his ability, Owen was plagued by injury yet still managed to almost break England's top ever goal scoring record. And if you can't agree that Ashley Cole has been one of the best if not the best LB over the last 10 years then you, little princess, are a fool. ity1:

Wilshere was hailed as the next midfield maestro, after 3 years he still isnt a regular starter for Arsenal, same goes for Walcott, yes they can improve, improve to be better players, not the "great maestros" that they were foreseen to be.
Owen had a superb run in his Liverpool days, for a few years, thats all there it is to him, since his move to real madrid he has been nothing but a failure, and to rank him as one of the world's greatest strikers is a disgrace.

The Ashley Cole one is the funniest of all lmao. Lets go back 10 years ago, Roberto Carlos would have made Cole tie his shoe laces with his class. Not even mentioning Maldini, cant place Cole with that legend in the same sentence.

Then came Philip Lahm, who is also good enough to wipe his boot with Ashley Cole.

Now we not only have Lahm whos better than him at that position but also Marcelo, Alba and Coentrao. If it was 2 years ago, i would have also placed Evra above him.

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I even forgot about Lizarazu.

 

[Crayo]

Wilshere was hailed as the next midfield maestro, after 3 years he still isnt a regular starter for Arsenal, same goes for Walcott

They're both regulars every single week. They're the #1 and #2 names on the team sheet, you complete, and utter, blueberry. Wilshere is the first midfielder picked for England as well, and has won the PFA award. Since then he had an almost year long injury, but has returned like nothing happened. He owned Brazil & Barcelona, he's a star, admit it. You. Know. Nothing. About. Football.

Ignoring the rest of the post as I didn't read it.

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

Sorry Jeebak but are you trolling me atm? I fail to see how anyone can know so little about something yet argue the most about it, I can't win, if I said Messi is the best player in the world you'd probably reply that he never gets picked for Barca, please tell me that this is all a joke.

 

[JeebaK]

Sorry Jeebak but are you trolling me atm? I fail to see how anyone can know so little about something yet argue the most about it, I can't win, if I said Messi is the best player in the world you'd probably reply that he never gets picked for Barca, please tell me that this is all a joke.

Comparing messi with wilshere, please remind me not to discuss football with a british again n::facepalm1:hew:

 

[Gav back in the championship]

i kind of agree with jeebaks point but not all the players he's used you just have to look at the transfer fees paid over the years like downing (£20mil) carroll(£35mil) henderson(£16mil) barry(24mil) young(£18mil) plus many more if they wern't english they'd of went for half of what teams paid for them

 

[JeebaK]

i kind of agree with jeebaks point but not all the players he's used you just have to look at the transfer fees paid over the years like downing (£20mil) carroll(£35mil) henderson(£16mil) barry(24mil) young(£18mil) plus many more if they wern't english they'd of went for half of what teams paid for them

This.

 

[Crayo]

i kind of agree with jeebaks point but not all the players he's used you just have to look at the transfer fees paid over the years like downing (£20mil) carroll(£35mil) henderson(£16mil) barry(24mil) young(£18mil) plus many more if they wern't english they'd of went for half of what teams paid for them

Has nothing to do with overrated. British plays -- regardless of their skill or how they're perceived -- will naturally be more expensive in Britain... It's the same in Spain, Germany, Portugal etc.

 

[Gav back in the championship]

Has nothing to do with overrated. British plays -- regardless of their skill or how they're perceived -- will naturally be more expensive in Britain... It's the same in Spain, Germany, Portugal etc.

True but the prices aint as excessive as they are for english players i think the price tag on some players does suggest they are over rated like barry swp downing milner if there not worth the money their team paid for them even by todays standards then they are overated

 

[Crayo]

True but the prices aint as excessive as they are for english players i think the price tag on some players does suggest they are over rated like barry swp downing milner if there not worth the money their team paid for them even by todays standards then they are overated

Just because you pay more it doesn't mean they're overrated. None of those players you mention are rated by English fans, fans of those clubs or the English press... In fact, none of those players you mentioned are regular players in the England team any more. You pay more because they are British playing in the British league for a number of reasons. None of those are "overrated".

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

None of those players you mention are rated by English fans, fans of those clubs or the English press.

I still love you Downing. :

 

[Crayo]

I still love you Downing. :

Lmao