Payback 2013 Live Discussion - November 29, 2020

[Chris]

He's almost Corporate

 

[Ricky Smarks]

WWE became enamored with the milk toast babyface they knew sucked in 1998, but now won't do anything else.

 

[Chris]

Dean trying for Old School

 

[Hoss]

When he feuded with Seth in 2015 and he looked like a bum off the indies, I immediately saw why WWE went with Seth first and then when I saw that Brock match in 2016, I knew why they then went with Roman.

Roman had just as bad a match on the same show plus he got booed out the building AFTER they crafted all their programming to try to have him be cheered in that moment

 

[Chris]

King proud of the Heath Ledger Joker reference like there aren't already a million photoshop pics of the makeup on Dean's face at this point on rasslin' forums

 

[Ricky Smarks]

You can tell this early, because Dean hasn't gotten too lazy to wear the vest yet. But he is wearing a white tee under it for reasons I can't fathom. I can totes sees why I began to hate him later. Just didn't see here because the Shield was so new and it hide it.

 

[Hoss]

Roman had just as bad a match on the same show plus he got booed out the building AFTER they crafted all their programming to try to have him be cheered in that moment

And they still persisted doing the same shit for another 2 and a half years just to make matters worse

 

[Chris]

I don't get the hate for the white tee really lol

 

[Chris]

Coutout victory

 

[Chris]

Match was still solid tho, can't be upset really

 

[Chris]

he didn't take any chapions advantage lmao he WON by CO not lost by it

 

[Ricky Smarks]

Roman had just as bad a match on the same show plus he got booed out the building AFTER they crafted all their programming to try to have him be cheered in that moment

They booed him because they never got over DB not winning the 2014 or 2015 Royal Rumbles. That said, agree to disagree on the match. I thought it was fine. Roman still looked, acted and felt like a bigger star than Dean did at the time, regardless of the match with Trips.

 

[Chris]

These announcers wildin' tonight

 

[Ricky Smarks]

This one of RVD's rare returns to WWE?

 

[Chris]

I think he stuck around for a whole year for this one