Official Raw discussion thread

[HenchmanForHire]

Oh I'm all about ADR winning that one, especially by Sub that way. Just something random I was thinking. haha

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Vickie Guerrero looks extra sloppy tonight.

 

[PHX]

Missed damn near all the show but dvring it how has it been?

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Well the Del Rio/Truth/Rey was a solid match everything else has been a little meh. The Cena/Dr. McMahon promo is still to come.

 

[PHX]

This promo has been the thing I wanted to see most so glad I'm back in time for this.

 

[PHX]

They are really setting up Punk to turn face if he were to stay.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

After how most wrestling fans have reacted to Punk so positively he'd probably would've been cheered tonight.

 

[PHX]

This is pretty damn great promo.

 

[HenchmanForHire]

That ending had a little bite to it... My full review:

http://www.pinfallmagazine.com/2011/07/wwe-monday-night-raw-74-review/

 

[PHX]

They really shouldn't have added that Cena will be fired if he loses the match. Really didn't need anything more added to it as the match is as huge of a world title match that I can remember.

 

[SAL]

My prediction: Vince adds ADR to the title match to help ensure that Punk doesn't walk away with the title.

 

[PHX]

Would hate that personally. Might be better to just have guys interfere on Vince's behalf but have Cena not want to win that way and they both fend off whoever tries to get involved. Might be overbooking but it would make more sense.

 

[Kingslayer]

If ADR was going to get added to the title match by Vince, it would've already happened tonight.

I can see 3 scenarios happening.

Del Rio wins MITB, Punk wins the title, and Vince comes out to fire Cena and just as Vince is getting the YOOOOOOUUUURRRRREEEE part of his you're fired phrase out, Del Rio's music hits, he comes down with the briefcase and cashes in on Punk, thus Cena keeps his job.

or

Del Rio is taken out of the MITB match. Vince McMahon does something such as give him the night off, or whatever, and promise him the next #1 contender opportunity. Punk wins and Vince announces that Del Rio's previously earned #1 contendership is still valid, so he comes down and gets a MITB style match right then and there, ala Batista in 2010. This allows the WWE to give Alex Riley the MITB instead, and build him up with it for a long time instead of wasting the contract on Del Rio when he's got another easy path to the title.

or

Vince screws Cena out of the title and raises Punk's hand, leaving everybody confused and eager to turn into Raw tomorrow night, where we find out that this entire Punk leaving situation was an elaborate charade designed by him and Vince to screw Cena out of the title and Punk already signed to a new deal. Cena is fired but he manages to fight it and come back like he always does, leading to a SummerSlam program where he wins it back.

Either way, I'm convinced now that Punk is winning the title because when I listened to Vince, I made sure to take close note of the wording. He didn't say "if Punk wins you're fired", he said "if Punk walks out of Chicago with the championship you're fired". So something is up. Cena can't just win and nothing happen, not after they've put so much detail in this angle, not after Vince showed up in person to have a long, great promo with Cena. We're past that.

 

[AF.]

The fake ovations were so obvious, if only those were real. The fake cheers and boos actually made the program so much better.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

As much as I like Del Rio, Punk is just too on fire right now to have another heel in the main event at MITB. I'm sure just to keep it simple they will just have Del Rio put back in the MITB ladder match after some half-ass GM/Dr. McMahon explanation leading to him actually walking out of MITB with the briefcase just to spite everyone.

Now I am back to Punk/Cena and after the ending promo last night all I have been able to come up with is Punk winning via Dr. McMahon screwing Cena. It looks like McMahon wants to be back on TV in a big role, but he needed a storyline that folks will actually remember. This was his chance. Not sure how this will work with whole Anyonomus GM stuff however I do see a fallout from this shaking up Raw like no Draft could ever could.